How good is Big Brown?

slotdirt · #1 03-29-2008, 05:14 PM

Will I use him on my tickets on May 3rd in L-ville? Sure. Do I think he's the winner? No chance, lance.

Payson Dave · #2 03-29-2008, 05:27 PM

Looking forward to hearing how BB comes out of the Race...very impressive today but hard to imagine that the effort won't have taken a lot out of a horse who has foot problems....Dutrow didn't seem to want to take much time to talk with J Edwards right after the race...

slotdirt · #3 03-29-2008, 05:32 PM

I'll be interested to see the final fractions in particular.

Bobby Fischer · #4 03-29-2008, 05:34 PM

you guys do know that no horse has ever come back sound and healthy after winning from the 12 post 9 furlongs GP main track

Payson Dave · #5 03-29-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

you guys do know that no horse has ever come back sound and healthy after winning from the 12 post 9 furlongs GP main track

how many have come back unsound after winning from post 12 at 9f @gpx. ???

Riot · #6 03-29-2008, 05:40 PM

The race replay is up on Bloodhorse TCM page. Here's the link: http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/index.asp

1/4 22.76 11.28
1/2 45.83 11.46
3/4 1:10:08 11.68
1m 1:35:18 11.89
1 1/8 1:48:16 12.98

My take: Smooth Air looked good at top of stretch, then struggled a bit, but then got straightened out and was closing well and striding out - did have BB in his sights. Probably will get Derby distance fine.

Big Brown ran against nobody, with no real pressure, out front all by himself. Jock knew he had it in the middle of the turn. He was being wrapped up on the last 1/16 (as Smooth Air was indeed closing a bit) No question he'll get Derby distance easily. And he didn't look hard used at all.

Tomicito - may close into 3 or 4th in the Derby.

Cajungator26 · #7 03-29-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

I'll be interested to see the final fractions in particular.

http://www.equibase.com/static/chart...32908USA10.pdf

TheSpyder · #8 03-29-2008, 05:40 PM

Times in 100ths: :22.76 :45.83 1:10.08 1:35.18 1:48.16

Which means by comparision, for what its worth BB would have beaten Shes All Eltish by 18 lengths. The race before was:

Times in 100ths: :24.35 :48.36 1:12.79 1:38.17 1:51.80

With all the talk about the girls beating the boys in times this year this puts another stamp on this race.

The Indomitable DrugS · #9 03-29-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Times in 100ths: :22.76 :45.83 1:10.08 1:35.18 1:48.16

Which means by comparision, for what its worth BB would have beaten Shes All Eltish by 18 lengths. The race before was:

Times in 100ths: :24.35 :48.36 1:12.79 1:38.17 1:51.80

With all the talk about the girls beating the boys in times this year this puts another stamp on this race.

Big Brown ran a final time that yields a Beyer figure 33 points faster than the Bonnie Miss winner.

If upset winner She's All Eltish ran back to her 90 Beyer she ran last time, that puts Big Brown's figure at a Ghostzapper like 123.

However, it's obvious that the fairly moderate pace of the Bonnie Miss and the extremely fast pace of the Florida Derby had a big impact on the final times.

#10 03-29-2008, 05:52 PM

I just hit the pick 4. Should I act like a huge know-it-all douche right now?

justindew · #11 03-29-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I just hit the pick 4. Should I act like a huge know-it-all douche right now?

Yes.

The Indomitable DrugS · #12 03-29-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Seems like the track got faster. I mean Electrify is an alright horse, but he just shaded 1:48 for 9 furlongs.

Good point.

Scav · #13 03-29-2008, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Seems like the track got faster. I mean Electrify is an alright horse, but he just shaded 1:48 for 9 furlongs.

is the track still drying out or is it completely dry from all that rain last week?

#14 03-29-2008, 05:57 PM

I'm not sure I should act like a douche. It paid a little lower than Big Brown's win. And I also posted exactly what I should bet.

I better wait and work on my douche skills. It just isn't cutting it this time.

fpsoxfan · #15 03-29-2008, 05:59 PM

I've stayed on the sidelines up until this point. Right now based on what I've seen this is the best 3 year old running.

Scav · #16 03-29-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I don't think it has rained there since the beginning of this week, so you would think that it's dried out. Who knows what these supers do, but that Electrify time sticks out like a sore thumb to me.

It would be interesting to see what they did inbetween, because it was only what, 40 minutes until that last race??

SOREHOOF · #17 03-29-2008, 06:05 PM

Believe your eyes. Smooth Air held on after being with the lead. He might get better with more distance, or at least hold on in the Derby. I like BB I liked Bellamy Road too.

The Indomitable DrugS · #18 03-29-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I don't think it has rained there since the beginning of this week, so you would think that it's dried out. Who knows what these supers do, but that Electrify time sticks out like a sore thumb to me.

I will hand time Electrify's race later.

They didn't post fractions for it.