Keeneland Rebates

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Scav

I agree, but what is lacking is the tracks, but he is working on it. The second he gets California, I am over there for good. I get the feeling though that once he gets some of these bigger tracks, the other ADW's might follow suit, because the only thing that Twin Spires has, and it is the most important strength, is their tracks. Everything else they offer is complete garbage. If I could create an ADW I would create it as follows

1) Youbet's wagering platform
2) Twin Spires Video
3) PTC's wagering opportunitys (dutching, 'if' wagers)
4) PTC's customer service/management

The important thing is the are providing quality competition and a lot of innovation, usually unheard of in any facet of the game.

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I agree.

Moreover, I'm sure Uncle Sam can't wait for you to come over here as well so they can start digging into your pocket for their share of your winnings.

They already do. I don't mess with the IRS.

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

On another note, you might want to put that (thinks he's) annoying (attention needing) idiot on ignore or at least not quote him for those who have him shaded.

Good idea.

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I'm not sure how anyone that bets money could be anti-PTC.

I equate the PTC threads on here to telemarketing. I'm against being sold something when I'm not looking for said product/service. That's the beauty of the do not call list and it was a nice little feature of this site.

Plus nothing irritates me more with this deal than the blatant cheerleading of a service that doesn't offer what I'm looking for. Sure Keeneland is a nice addition but it's a very short meet.

The chances of PTC getting CDI and Magna tracks are slim to none and unfortunately that won't change until one or both of them folds.

And really if people on this board want to be sold something...I highly suggest and recommend Paceadvantage.com.

Now the_fat_b.itch...he's calling me an idiot? Boo hoo. Guess I don't b.itch enough to earn his approval.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I equate the PTC threads on here to telemarketing. I'm against being sold something when I'm not looking for said product/service. That's the beauty of the do not call list and it was a nice little feature of this site.

Plus nothing irritates me more with this deal than the blatant cheerleading of a service that doesn't offer what I'm looking for. Sure Keeneland is a nice addition but it's a very short meet.

The chances of PTC getting CDI and Magna tracks are slim to none and unfortunately that won't change until one or both of them folds.

And really if people on this board want to be sold something...I highly suggest and recommend Paceadvantage.com.

Now the_fat_b.itch...he's calling me an idiot? Boo hoo. Guess I don't b.itch enough to earn his approval.

I agree, I love that about this site. I don't think he was selling though.

Originally Posted by Scav

I agree, I love that about this site. I don't think he was selling though.

Nah this isn't a sales tactic...

"PTC is not the place for you if you feel takeout is not too high or you feel that cash rebates are wrong. It is also not the place for you if you don't want a superior betting interface, conditional wagering or dutching capabilities."

...It's like he's selling a Benz when in reality it's a Hyundai.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Nah this isn't a sales tactic...

"PTC is not the place for you if you feel takeout is not too high or you feel that cash rebates are wrong. It is also not the place for you if you don't want a superior betting interface, conditional wagering or dutching capabilities."

...It's like he's selling a Benz when in reality it's a Hyundai.

Dude, that is ceejay, he is a cool dude, he wasn't selling them, he was telling people what was available.....He is more pumped that Keeneland has become available. If Ian (PTC) would have said it, then I would consider selling.

[ceejay]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Nah this isn't a sales tactic...

"PTC is not the place for you if you feel takeout is not too high or you feel that cash rebates are wrong. It is also not the place for you if you don't want a superior betting interface, conditional wagering or dutching capabilities."

...It's like he's selling a Benz when in reality it's a Hyundai.

My only interest in PTC is as a customer. I wouldn't know Ian if I ran into him. Believe it. Don't believe it. I don't care. I just thought some DT'ers might be interested.

Oh, you left this part of the original post out:

Steve has approved this posting. I am a customer of PTC and not a principal

I'm just highly skeptical of the purpose of this thread. Either the OP is borderline retarded or he's a shill. Because if I recall he's made ptc threads before.

[ceejay]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I'm just highly skeptical of the purpose of this thread. Either the OP is borderline retarded or he's a shill. Because if I recall he's made ptc threads before.

Shill stats:
Total posts before this- 247
PTC-related ones before this- 5
2.0% or 50/1 odds. If I'm a shill I'm not a very good one. Please put me on ignore.

Originally Posted by ceejay

Shill stats:
Total posts before this- 247
PTC-related ones before this- 5
2.0% or 50/1 odds. If I'm a shill I'm not a very good one. Please put me on ignore.

I'm not a sissy therefore I don't put people on ignore.

The PTC threads I was referring to were darted instantly and there were quite a few of them.

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I'm not a sissy ...

That's not what I heard

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

That's not what I heard

Well you don't see me with a PTC account do ya?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I'm not a sissy therefore I don't put people on ignore.

The PTC threads I was referring to were darted instantly and there were quite a few of them.

I'm no shill man, you know this, and I just signed up. I currently use NYRA Rewards and their handle requirements to earn a reasonable rebate are REALLY high. I bet a LOT and don't frequently earn enough to make a substantial rebate in most months. Their rebates average 5-6% on most tracks, which is a HUGE competitive advantage. On top of that, they have some cool functions which I haven't learned how to use yet like conditional wagering like a function that checks for minimum odds on the horse you want to bet with 1 MTP and doesn't send the wager unless it meets the minimum.

Originally Posted by philcski

I'm no shill man, you know this, and I just signed up. I currently use NYRA Rewards and their handle requirements to earn a reasonable rebate are REALLY high. I bet a LOT and don't frequently earn enough to make a substantial rebate in most months. Their rebates average 5-6% on most tracks, which is a HUGE competitive advantage. On top of that, they have some cool functions which I haven't learned how to use yet like conditional wagering like a function that checks for minimum odds on the horse you want to bet with 1 MTP and doesn't send the wager unless it meets the minimum.

With the tracks they offer I would be lucky to push 10 grand through the windows for the year. $500-$600 isn't worth the time to register an account and fund it. If I was that hard up for cash I wouldn't be betting in the first place.

I know it's different for each person, however.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

With the tracks they offer I would be lucky to push 10 grand through the windows for the year. $500-$600 isn't worth the time to register an account and fund it. If I was that hard up for cash I wouldn't be betting in the first place.

I know it's different for each person, however.

I hear you, which I guess it's exciting to me that they are getting Keeneland. Before that, the only other track I play seriously on there is Monmouth/Meadowlands- wouldn't be worth it to play the Red Mile or Mardi Gras Dogs. This sort of legitimizes their operation...