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Old 03-25-2008, 05:39 PM
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Good to see they are starting to get some big name tracks finally.
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Old 03-25-2008, 07:59 PM
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Good to see they are starting to get some big name tracks finally.
Wheres Churchhill? NYRA? and So Cal Tracks on that list?
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Old 03-25-2008, 08:03 PM
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Wheres Churchhill? NYRA? and So Cal Tracks on that list?
They are working on it. Right now, Keeneland is their first big track that they got and a couple more should be coming soon. They also have the Breeders Cup.

I am yet to be a member yet, but I have talked to their CEO multiple times, and the guy is as legit as they come
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Old 03-25-2008, 08:17 PM
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He's definitely as legit as they come and sooner or later he's gonna get all the major tracks on board.

Which means, with the rebates, present losers will become winners. I mean, those who can't show a positive ROI presently will be able to eek out a decent living (should they choose so) by betting enough and getting a rebate.

So, if you can't beat the game UNAIDED, you can now beat the game LEGALLY with rebates. Those using the figures or programs of others would have no problem in this area.

HOWEVER, as a cop once told a friend of mine who was about to get into a fight outside of St. Paddy's Cathedral: "I've got the winner."

And that's exactly what Uncle Sam says. Got a problem with the high takeout. Can't win betting the ponies? NO PROBLEM. Sign on for some legal rebates, turn a profit, and give up a nice chunk of it to Uncle Sam. And HIS take is HIGHER than the takeout.

P.S. if you're not a 'professional' gambler, then you can't declare your expenses. Those sheets add up. OUCH.

Kind of puts ANONYMOUS, full payout track betting OR even local 5% takeout OTB betting in a whole new light. Of course, you'd have to be able to show UNAIDED profit in these cases.

I mean, can you imagine putting in all the time and effort to achieve the skill and discipline to be able to pull out $100K plus a year from betting and then have to give up 40% to Uncle Sam? This, on top of the high takeout. Now, THAT's GETTING BENT OVER LIKE A BITCH.

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Old 03-26-2008, 08:19 AM
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He's definitely as legit as they come and sooner or later he's gonna get all the major tracks on board.

Which means, with the rebates, present losers will become winners. I mean, those who can't show a positive ROI presently will be able to eek out a decent living (should they choose so) by betting enough and getting a rebate.

So, if you can't beat the game UNAIDED, you can now beat the game LEGALLY with rebates. Those using the figures or programs of others would have no problem in this area.

HOWEVER, as a cop once told a friend of mine who was about to get into a fight outside of St. Paddy's Cathedral: "I've got the winner."

And that's exactly what Uncle Sam says. Got a problem with the high takeout. Can't win betting the ponies? NO PROBLEM. Sign on for some legal rebates, turn a profit, and give up a nice chunk of it to Uncle Sam. And HIS take is HIGHER than the takeout.

P.S. if you're not a 'professional' gambler, then you can't declare your expenses. Those sheets add up. OUCH.

Kind of puts ANONYMOUS, full payout track betting OR even local 5% takeout OTB betting in a whole new light. Of course, you'd have to be able to show UNAIDED profit in these cases.

I mean, can you imagine putting in all the time and effort to achieve the skill and discipline to be able to pull out $100K plus a year from betting and then have to give up 40% to Uncle Sam? This, on top of the high takeout. Now, THAT's GETTING BENT OVER LIKE A BITCH.
Fat Man,

You need a tax haven. Bermuda, Bahamas, etc... No personal income tax.
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Old 03-26-2008, 08:41 AM
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How much are the rebates?
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Old 03-26-2008, 09:20 AM
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A little bit about us, just a little because I don't want to post a full-blown ad without paying Steve first (which we would be delighted to do).

We are legal, licensed, 100% pari-mutuel, fully vetted by the TRPB (which is why we have been able to get tough signals like KEE and Tampa). We pay cash rewards on each wager; amounts vary by track pool and monthly handle. KEE rewards will vary from 2.50% on the low end to 7% on the high end. Keep in mind, it is one of the lowest take tracks 16%/19% in the country.
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Old 03-25-2008, 08:33 PM
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Wheres Churchhill? NYRA? and So Cal Tracks on that list?
I don't know - but from the looks of it - the sooner they get them the better.
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