"best horse I've ever ridden"

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by KirisClown

You must have been suicidal after his Breeders Cup performance...

i was but i was only a kid, i bet him that day too, i think 100 to win, my dad went and made that bet for me also

I had 50 grand on FuPeg in the Derby. I remember telling my mom to take some of the winnings and buy some new tits.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I had 50 grand on FuPeg in the Derby. I remember telling my mom to take some of the winnings and buy some new tits.

fupeg.... where does he rate compared to others ?

afleet alex
smarty jones

i feel those 2 were overrated and fupeg was way underrated

Originally Posted by jcs11204

fupeg.... where does he rate compared to others ?

afleet alex
smarty jones

i feel those 2 were overrated and fupeg was way underrated

He rates below both of them because he did jack and s.hit after the Derby...in most part because he was bats.hit insane.

[NTamm1215]

I'm no Smarty fan but FuPeg couldn't hold his jockstrap in a suitcase. Don't give me that sticky track in the Preakness crap. That was his chance to get positioned to do something great and he ran horribly. A late season win in the Jerome did nothing to atone for that effort.

Overrated = FuPeg.

NT

[Travis Stone]

Remember Red Bullet skipped the Derby for the Preakness, awfully smart move, paid off huge.

Oh yea, FuPeg is extremely over-rated as both a horse AND now a sire.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Remember Red Bullet skipped the Derby for the Preakness, awfully smart move, paid off huge.

Oh yea, FuPeg is extremely over-rated as both a horse AND now a sire.

Fu Peg as a sire is almost a instant maiden throw out in their first 2 starts. Real head cases. I dont like them.

[KirisClown]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I'm no Smarty fan but FuPeg couldn't hold his jockstrap in a suitcase. Don't give me that sticky track in the Preakness crap. That was his chance to get positioned to do something great and he ran horribly. A late season win in a terrible rendition of the Jerome did nothing to atone for that effort.

Overrated = FuPeg.

NT

Im not defending FP.. but how was that Jerome terrible?

Fusaichi Pegasus, El Corredor, Albert The Great, Hook And Ladder...

A field like that would be considered remarkably deep nowadays...

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by KirisClown

Im not defending FP.. but how was that Jerome terrible?

Fusaichi Pegasus, El Corredor, Albert The Great, Hook And Ladder...

A field like that would be considered remarkably deep nowadays...

Yeah, I fixed that for myself, it was a strong race.

NT

[rontheman1964]

Seriously, Big Brown has exactly 2 wins under his belt. The same number of quarter cracks he has had in his career. I'll pass on him in the Derby. If he makes it into the starting gate he will be way overbet anyway.

[AeWingnut]

speaking of overrated

Remember AP Valentine

so much for perfect confirmation

which Fusaichi Pegasus was said to have

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

speaking of overrated

Remember AP Valentine

so much for perfect confirmation

which Fusaichi Pegasus was said to have

All that gold, they could at least have someone use a grass trimmer around
the outsides of that thing.

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I had 50 grand on FuPeg in the Derby. I remember telling my mom to take some of the winnings and buy some new tits.

Did Mom appear in the Beulah thread??

[Star of the North]

I happened to catch the race in real time on HRTV and the part that doesn't make sense was Jeff Siegel's reaction. Not thirty seconds past the wire, he's calling him "The best colt in the country."

Here's a guy that's been connected to a couple of really good ones making that kind of statement.

On April 18 last year, Godolphin rolled out a 4-year named Rondo who drilled an allowance field at Gulfstream in a similar fashion after winning by nine in his previous start eight months prior at Saratoga.

Rondo was beaten in an optional claimer at Belmont at 1-5 odds the following month and for all intents, was never heard from again.

Maybe there's memo out at HRTV that's calling for some hype to help viewership for the big race at Gulfstream.

DMM

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Star of the North

I happened to catch the race in real time on HRTV and the part that doesn't make sense was Jeff Siegel's reaction. Not thirty seconds past the wire, he's calling him "The best colt in the country."

Here's a guy that's been connected to a couple of really good ones making that kind of statement.

On April 18 last year, Godolphin rolled out a 4-year named Rondo who drilled an allowance field at Gulfstream in a similar fashion after winning by nine in his previous start eight months prior at Saratoga.

Rondo was beaten in an optional claimer at Belmont at 1-5 odds the following month and for all intents, was never heard from again.

Maybe there's memo out at HRTV that's calling for some hype to help viewership for the big race at Gulfstream.

DMM

Interesting point. I am not going to argue about Kent's comments, or about Siegel's opinion for that matter. However, just as a point of reference, Jeff Siegel wasn't just "connected" to some really good horses. His role was much more than that. Although most people here may know about Siegel, being a co-founder/partner in Team Valor (and their predecessor operation), most people here don't know the details and specifics, his role, etc.

There is a huge difference between handicapping (picking out a good horse to bet on) and identifying talent (picking out a good horse to buy, own, etc.).

Eric

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by ELA

Interesting point. I am not going to argue about Kent's comments, or about Siegel's opinion for that matter. However, just as a point of reference, Jeff Siegel wasn't just "connected" to some really good horses. His role was much more than that. Although most people here may know about Siegel, being a co-founder/partner in Team Valor (and their predecessor operation), most people here don't know the details and specifics, his role, etc.

There is a huge difference between handicapping (picking out a good horse to bet on) and identifying talent (picking out a good horse to buy, own, etc.).

Eric

Despite their prominence amongst racing syndicates, has Team Valor really been all that productive?

Outside of Prized (who was one of the early Clover Racing Stable horses) and Star of Cozzene (another Clover Racing horse) I can't really think of any horses that they campaigned successfully that weren't already well established at the time of purchase.

[AeWingnut]

as recently as last year or was it the year before they took come South African filly to Dubai and won a big race.

How much success do you expect from them?

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You too?

Yeah. To this day they're the "best tits I've ever bought"