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Old 03-17-2008, 03:10 PM
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Then the problem isn't him it's the coaches. They need to get West the heck off the floor and play him at point guard non-stop. But you see they traded to get this faux point guard...Delonte West. He's an ok player, but they wanted him to play point guard. That's why they got him. I think for myself. I know what I've seen. I'm not sure of the wisdom of the highest field goal percentage shooter on the team to drop 10 shots a game. I know what I see. I think you're dreaming in thinking increasing the shot load on the rest of the team is going to make him better. LeBron has the highest percentage on the team...he is not the one dropping the percentage to 43 or 44 percent or whatever it is. I saw a guy who played in 20 postseason games last year and led the team in assists in 20 post season games. HE is passing the ball to somebody. His assist total in post season last year was way up from regular season. His scoring was down...that may have been worse shooting that caused that...but his assists were up 2 per game in the post season last year. Your ball hog comments simply don't wash. IT doesn't add up at all. POssessions are generally less in post season and he was averaging 8 per game as opposed to 6 in the regular season. His assists are up 1.5 per game this year. I repeat...he simply has to be passing to somebody isn't he??

You make your arguments all you want. Nothing you say adds up too much. Other than the fact that he does need to improve his free throw shooting. That is about the only thing I agree with.
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O nba titles so far....and zero with no change in his game for the future.











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He'll actually have to practice free throw shooting,too.
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Old 03-17-2008, 03:22 PM
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Well, then he'll have as many titles as the great ego-less Austin Carr, Brad Daugherty, Mark Price, Jim Chones, Larry Nance, World B Free etc. Those late 80s-early 90s Wilkens teams played great team ball all the time. They were all very good shooters...good free throw shooters (other than Ehlo!) and they never sniffed a title...ever. How could that be?? Explain that one to me ace?? Another pretty easy answer.
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Well, then he'll have as many titles as the great ego-less Austin Carr, Brad Daugherty, Mark Price, Jim Chones, Larry Nance, World B Free etc. Those late 80s-early 90s Wilkens teams played great team ball all the time. They were all very good shooters...good free throw shooters (other than Ehlo!) and they never sniffed a title...ever. How could that be?? Explain that one to me ace?? Another pretty easy answer.
Can't justify why the Cavs can't win an nba title with the SHOOTING STAR.








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Old 03-17-2008, 03:28 PM
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Here's a time segment he will run from....how many nba titles did the SHOOTING STAR..Wilt Chamberlian ..win until he changed his game?
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Old 03-17-2008, 03:29 PM
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Can't justify why the Cavs can't win an nba title with the SHOOTING STAR.








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Why would I have to justify it?? I've never seen any Cleveland team win a title. Why would I have to justify the Cavs not winning one with LeBron?? The closest they ever came was last year and he was on the team. I know it had more to do with ERic Snow, Ilgauskas, Marshall, Hughes and Pollard...yes we all know that it was more to do with the other 11 guys than James...but they got pretty close last year with LeBron James as their leading scorer and passer. Saying a Cleveland team can't win becuase of LeBron?? You'll have to do way better than that!!! That's pretty comical. I haven't seen any Cleveland team win with ANYONE!! Man you're good.
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Old 03-17-2008, 03:32 PM
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Here's a time segment he will run from....how many nba titles did the SHOOTING STAR..Wilt Chamberlian ..win until he changed his game?
Perhaps his game changed becuase of Hal Greer, Chet Walker, Billy Cunningham, Luke Jackson. AGain...you're really gonna compare here?? classic.
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Can't justify his sainting of James....has backed himself into corner.







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Perhaps his game changed becuase of Hal Greer, Chet Walker, Billy Cunningham, Luke Jackson. AGain...you're really gonna compare here?? classic.



Fails to do so...again.
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Old 03-17-2008, 03:36 PM
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Fails to do so...again.
You put some hall of famers with James he'll have a better team. What are you trying to say here?? I dont' think the 08 Cavs have nearly as good a team as the 67 Sixers whatever that means.
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COO-COO....COO-COO


He still cain't justify his fouled claim.
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Old 03-17-2008, 03:39 PM
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IF you really want to compare Delonte West to a hall of famer and Sasha to a hall of famer be my guest. The 67 Sixers had 3 hall of famers and the 80sLakers had 3 hall of famers. Chamberlain shot well under 50 percent from the free throw line as well. I understood you couldn't win with anyone shooting under 72 percent?? I guess your point is if James were any good he's make Pavlovic a hall of famer?

Outrageous.
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IF you really want to compare Delonte West to a hall of famer and Sasha to a hall of famer be my guest. The 67 Sixers had 3 hall of famers and the 80sLakers had 3 hall of famers. Chamberlain shot well under 50 percent from the free throw line as well. I understood you couldn't win with anyone shooting under 72 percent?? I guess your point is if James were any good he's make Pavlovic a hall of famer?

Outrageous.
Jordan made Pippen a hall of famer.
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COO-COO.....COO-COO







And James still has no titles.

Put him on the Charlotte....then you'll see some titles!!




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Jordan made Pippen a hall of famer.

He doesn't understand non James terminology.
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Jordan made Pippen a hall of famer.
YEs he did, but I think PIppen had a few more game skills than Pavlovic.
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He doesn't understand non James terminology.
I don't understand clown terminology.
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My time is done for the day...I'll come back tomorrow to see what the clown posse has come up with further on this topic.
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