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Old 03-17-2008, 01:50 PM
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You ran from 0-7!!


I never mentioned it...you did!



And you lied!


Now you run to this mess!....Like ALL WITNESSES do!









Let history tell. If James continues to be selfish...the Cavs will continue to underacheive. You can't have a hotdog shooting 25-30 times a game while the 7-3 center shoots 7-8....for one example.



Let's hear you answer how many nba titles they've won WITH him?

And that answer ain't about to change this year---either.


Booby Knight would throw you IN the chair across the floor.
What is their record without Varejao and Pavlovic with LEBron on the floor??

STate it dumb man. STate it dimwit...State it dim bulb. state it smartman...you really can't do it can you??

(where did I lie??)

By the way Ilgauskas is shooting 47.5 percent not even up to the clangers standards. He is not an 86 percent field goal shooter.
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Old 03-17-2008, 01:52 PM
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THe hot dog is shooting 22 times per game...not 25-30. But what's 5 shots per game amongst friends!!!
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Old 03-17-2008, 01:54 PM
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How many eastern conference championships did they win without James??

How many eastern conference championships have they won with James??
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How many eastern conference championships did they win without James??

How many eastern conference championships have they won with James??



Same as Z....one.
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Old 03-17-2008, 02:05 PM
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Same as Z....one.

Oh yes, along with the fact they are 1-0 in their last one game with both Z and LeBron on the floor. Don't forget Scott Pollard as well. They won an eastern conference championship with him as well!!
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Old 03-17-2008, 02:18 PM
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Your statements merely support team effort...nothing more.
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Old 03-17-2008, 02:38 PM
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Listen, I didn't start this thread ripping him to shreds. That was not me. I was only responding. I do not think the team under-achieved last year even with him being a ball hog so to speak if that's really what you think. You act like the guy never passes the ball. Simply not true. Again the main difference to me is you equate the rest of this Cavs team to the 80s Laker teams. I don't. I think LeBron has to score a bit more than Magic to make this team most effective. Sort of like Jordan wasn't dealing out 15 assists per game for the 90s Bulls. I don't think that team would have been as good with him doing that. He was an over 30 a game scorer for those teams. I'm not comparing LeBron to either Magic or Jordan, but really, you can't think the supporting group of players for Cleveland is that good that he can average 14 assists per game? I mean Jabbar and Worthy were hall of famers. This Cleveland team ain't got that...sorry. I know you love those other guys to death, but they ain't Jabbar or big game James.
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Old 03-17-2008, 01:56 PM
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I wll now let history tell my story....I do not mix and match time segments like the Captain of the Oblivious does.












If THE CLANGER continues his current antics......no title.



He plays like a true great player who wants to win a title does....which calls for TEAM play...then he will win them.








There is NO FROZEN ONE in TEAM.






Until then The Worshipper can keep mixing and matching to fit the "greatness" of James. Too bad he can't manufacture a phony title that way,too.
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Old 03-17-2008, 02:02 PM
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The fact that you refuse to answer any of my questions is pretty much all I need to know about this thread. When one is obviously right and asks easy questions with easy answers that refuse to be answered the story is told.

You obviously think James is the greatest player to ever play the game as you stated he could average more than an assist more per game than Magic Johnson ever did in his entire career while playing with the top scorer in NBA history, James Worthy, Byron Scott and Michael Cooper. That is in essence where you and I differ. I do not quite put Z up to Jabbar's level, nor Sasha up to Worthy's level, nor Delonte up to Scott's level, nor Varejao up to McAdoo's level. I guess you could put Wallace up to Rambis' level!!
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