Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-03-2006, 09:13 AM
GPK GPK is offline
5'8".. but all man!
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: 3 miles from Chateuax de la Blaha
Posts: 21,706
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by boldruler
You are going to be surprised about this one. Trust me. I don't know if you know Tagg but when he starts talking Eclipse he isn't kidding. That guy is the most pessimistic guy alive, he wouldn't say it if he didn't really believe it. Showing Up is a february foal and he has matured a ton since the derby. He will have no problem with the older horses.

Here we go again...Tagg...the pessimist...Come on man...you gotta come up with something new....You know as well as anyone that SU isn't prepared for older turf horses right now.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-03-2006, 09:16 AM
boldruler
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GPK
Here we go again...Tagg...the pessimist...Come on man...you gotta come up with something new....You know as well as anyone that SU isn't prepared for older turf horses right now.
He is better at this point than EC was at 3, and EC lost the Turf Classic by a nose to Shakespeare when he was 3. No American turf horse has anything on SU. The Euros are a different story.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-03-2006, 09:19 AM
Pointg5 Pointg5 is offline
Sheepshead Bay
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,096
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by boldruler
He is better at this point than EC was at 3, and EC lost the Turf Classic by a nose to Shakespeare when he was 3. No American turf horse has anything on SU. The Euros are a different story.
As soon as they invent a Time Machine, let us know, so we can race them both as 3yo's...
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-03-2006, 09:19 AM
Damascus '67's Avatar
Damascus '67 Damascus '67 is offline
Sunshine Park
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Camp Hill, Pa.
Posts: 85
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by boldruler
He is better at this point than EC was at 3, and EC lost the Turf Classic by a nose to Shakespeare when he was 3. No American turf horse has anything on SU. The Euros are a different story.
He's raced one time over the turf and you're making him the next Manila. What happens if he gets beat?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-03-2006, 09:20 AM
GPK GPK is offline
5'8".. but all man!
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: 3 miles from Chateuax de la Blaha
Posts: 21,706
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by boldruler
He is better at this point than EC was at 3, and EC lost the Turf Classic by a nose to Shakespeare when he was 3. No American turf horse has anything on SU. The Euros are a different story.

Same old song and dance.....it's like there is an echo in here...

EC's record and PP's speak for themselves. He towers over SU and the funny thing is...you know that to be true.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-03-2006, 09:21 AM
GPK GPK is offline
5'8".. but all man!
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: 3 miles from Chateuax de la Blaha
Posts: 21,706
Default

If SU is so good, why didn't Tagg keep him and Colonial and run in the VA Derby. I mean, that was only a Grade 2 $1,000,000 race..
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-03-2006, 09:27 AM
oracle80
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GPK
If SU is so good, why didn't Tagg keep him and Colonial and run in the VA Derby. I mean, that was only a Grade 2 $1,000,000 race..
Because Tagg is alsoa smart trainer and knows that the goal is a grade one win Kev, not a grade 2 at any price. A grade one win gets you autmatic liscnese to stand at stud and far outshadows the money in a grade 2 even if its a million. The Sec is the only grade one grass race for strictly three year olds and tagg knew this was the goal. But our brain damaged friend here(Bold Ruler) will say its ok for Tagg to do that, but not for pletcher to skip the million to try and get to his goal. Which basically makes Bold Ruler a spineless, know nothing hypocrite. But we already knew that so its no big deal.
Bottom line is that both Tagg and Pletcher did or are doing what is right in attempt to reach and pursue their main objectives and that of their owners.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-03-2006, 09:30 AM
GPK GPK is offline
5'8".. but all man!
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: 3 miles from Chateuax de la Blaha
Posts: 21,706
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by oracle80
Because Tagg is alsoa smart trainer and knows that the goal is a grade one win Kev, not a grade 2 at any price. A grade one win gets you autmatic liscnese to stand at stud and far outshadows the money in a grade 2 even if its a million. The Sec is the only grade one grass race for strictly three year olds and tagg knew this was the goal. But our brain damaged friend here(Bold Ruler) will say its ok for Tagg to do that, but not for pletcher to skip the million to try and get to his goal. Which basically makes Bold Ruler a spineless, know nothing hypocrite. But we already knew that so its no big deal.
Bottom line is that both Tagg and Pletcher did or are doing what is right in attempt to reach and pursue their main objectives and that of their owners.
Mike, is from July 15th to August 12th not enough time between races? Right at a month....what was wrong with entering in both?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-03-2006, 09:35 AM
oracle80
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GPK
Mike, is from July 15th to August 12th not enough time between races? Right at a month....what was wrong with entering in both?
You are dead wrong kev. Its the narrow three weeks between the two races at Colonial that kept him from doing that. Its just too quick back, especially with only 4 weeks to the next race out in Arlington. And think of the toll the extra shipping plays. They aren't machines kev, you can't just beat on them like that. Tagg made the right play.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.