Big Truck - NY bred

Holland Hacker · #1 03-17-2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas

He is a "true" NY bred in that his sire Hook And Ladder is NY based. He is now the #1 leading sire in NY after Big Truck's win. There are so many "NY breds" that are conceived outside NY but dropped in NY, making them a NY bred.
http://www.nybreds.com/frames/FS_foalbarn.html

You can see "NY breds" by Kitten's Joy, Pulpit, Giacamo, Smarty Jones etc, etc. Makes it kind of tough to compete for NY breeders that use NY based stallions.

That must partly be a reason for sires like Utopia, Andromeda's Hero, Golden Missile, Smooth Jazz etc to locate to NY. Local breeders need access to compete with the carpet baggers.

Isn't the idea of the NYB program to support the farms in New York state that breed horses?

I would think there are a lot of individuals employeed at farms in New York to care for all of the mares and their foals that they birth each year in New York regardless of where the stallion stands. I think letting mares breed outside of New York and allowing the resultant foal to qualify as NY Breds is a good thing. At a minimum it should improve the quality of NY bred racing if not he "class" of NY Breds.

NY will probably never compete with Kentucky for recruiting the top stallions but to prevent NY mares from breeding to them would be a disservice to NY Breeders and probably drive many breeders with top borderline mares to leave NY for greener pastures elsewhere. This would be a huge step backwards for the NY program as the qualify of NY Bred races would decline while the purses hopefully increase.

sumitas · #2 03-17-2008, 12:44 PM

The Big (NY) Truck is rollin now.

And notice in the link, if you want to, 3rd place finisher Dynamic Wayne is by NY based Eltish. So there.

http://www.nybreds.com/

You all make some good points and I understand your insight. #$%^(*&^%$#$%!!!

Cajungator26 · #3 03-17-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas

The Big (NY) Truck is rollin now.

And notice in the link, if you want to, 3rd place finisher Dynamic Wayne is by NY based Eltish. So there.

http://www.nybreds.com/

You all make some good points and I understand your insight. #$%^(*&^%$#$%!!!

Don't forget about Spanky Fischbein (another Hook and Ladder.)

sumitas · #4 03-17-2008, 04:46 PM

I saw Hook And Ladder one time in the paddock at the spa. Kimmel was saddling him. As I recall he was slightly built.

Cajungator26 · #5 03-17-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas

I saw Hook And Ladder one time in the paddock at the spa. Kimmel was saddling him. As I recall he was slightly built.

He's a nice looking hoss IMO. Pretty 'racey' looking, but he seems to have a decent amount of bone and a nice shoulder.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #6 03-17-2008, 04:56 PM

There were quite a few horses at the two-year-olds in training sales last year by Hook and Ladder that could really run. Some of them are nice hosses.

Cajungator26 · #7 03-17-2008, 05:05 PM

Sons of Dixieland Band seem to do OK at stud... I wonder how the Bowman's Band two year olds are going to look this year when they hit the track.

#8 03-17-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Hook and Ladder was a sire that I said to watch out for when I saw some of his offspring at the two-year-olds in training sales last year. Some of them are nice hosses.

AMEN

i hit a large ticket with I promise at belmont way back when
http://www.nybreds.com/racing/entrie...s_breeder.html