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Old 03-15-2008, 06:33 PM
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i'm with you. he showed NO guts today at all. he'll never stand up to the bump and grind in a 20 horse field.
Horses with his running style are immune to the size of the field. If he breaks, it all comes down to whether or not anyone goes with him and whether or not he can last. If he can go 3/4s in under 1:11 and still be around a half-mile later, it doesn't matter if there are 5 or 50 horses behind him.
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Old 03-15-2008, 06:45 PM
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Horses with his running style are immune to the size of the field. If he breaks, it all comes down to whether or not anyone goes with him and whether or not he can last. If he can go 3/4s in under 1:11 and still be around a half-mile later, it doesn't matter if there are 5 or 50 horses behind him.
I bet against him today (Atoned) because, among other reasons, I thought he was susceptible to being between other speeds early today. The scenario you described for him running his race is pretty typical for any speedball. It's easy to pile on (1/9 horse with $600k in show bet losses) but I won't cause I like speed horses. But at a short price, he cannot be bet.
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Old 03-15-2008, 06:47 PM
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skip away ..nuff said....
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Old 03-15-2008, 09:35 PM
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Old 03-15-2008, 09:46 PM
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For race fans with stunningly short memories...

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ory?id=2017316
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Old 03-15-2008, 09:53 PM
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For race fans with stunningly short memories...

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ory?id=2017316
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/horse...as-derby_x.htm
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Old 03-15-2008, 10:18 PM
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It's bad luck.

War Pass was supposed to fail because of his limitations in the Wood or the Derby. I wanted that money. Not lose because of gate/trip/traffic etc issues at 8.5 furlongs.

Cal loses too soon on turf, Indian Blessing loses "too soon" , now War Pass loses "too soon" there isn't really a fan favorite in this crop who I can count on losing for me at this stage. The losing fan favorite is the major element that a player can extend his profit beyond the 20% grind. Bad luck today.
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Old 03-15-2008, 10:21 PM
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I agree, Bobby. . . This was not a good thing for those planning on playing against WP in the Derby. . .
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Old 03-15-2008, 10:35 PM
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For race fans with stunningly short memories...

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ory?id=2017316
he immediately comes to mind for me when a heavy favorite fails to live up to expectations...

on a related(oaklawn) note, sierra sunset flattered himself, as well as denis of cork, with a win today in hot springs.
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Old 03-15-2008, 10:38 PM
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he immediately comes to mind for me when a heavy favorite fails to live up to expectations...

on a related(oaklawn) note, sierra sunset flattered himself, as well as denis of cork, with a win today in hot springs.
Nice hoss on the improve...

Still nowhere near the top group though.
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Old 03-15-2008, 10:55 PM
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he immediately comes to mind for me when a heavy favorite fails to live up to expectations...

on a related(oaklawn) note, sierra sunset flattered himself, as well as denis of cork, with a win today in hot springs.
King's Silver Son is one I'm going to be watching closely next out.
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