Bernadini/the reason for my doubts

[ceejay]

It's how fast the horse ran. I accept that; however, I give it less weight in my handicapping of how the horse will perform next time, and that's what I mean by "I throw it out." Many times I've seen horses with easy leads produce big figs that are difficult to reproduce. Especially at KEE.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ceejay

It's how fast the horse ran. I accept that; however, I give it less weight in my handicapping of how the horse will perform next time, and that's what I mean by "I throw it out." Many times I've seen horses with easy leads produce big figs that are difficult to reproduce. Especially at KEE.

ESPECIALLY at Keeneland....Sinister Minister will never win another race, NEVER

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by Scav

ESPECIALLY at Keeneland....Sinister Minister will never win another race, NEVER

That's insane to say, the horse is a runner, sure he was aided by a speed bias, but if Baffert gets him right, he will be a very good horse, his sheet # was huge...

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

That's insane to say, the horse is a runner, sure he was aided by a speed bias, but if Baffert gets him right, he will be a very good horse, his sheet # was huge...

I would be willing to take odds that he doesn't even make it to another race....

I pay absolutely NO attention to sheet numbers at Keeneland, the only time I do is when the horses were returning to Keeneland and they looked like a Keenaland specialist. With them getting poly or whatever it is called, that should change.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by Scav

I would be willing to take odds that he doesn't even make it to another race....

I pay absolutely NO attention to sheet numbers at Keeneland, the only time I do is when the horses were returning to Keeneland and they looked like a Keenaland specialist. With them getting poly or whatever it is called, that should change.

Pleasant Home

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

Pleasant Home

Ok, where are you going with this?

Pleasant home ran like four consective 1's going into the BC at three different tracks I think, if you are trying to say that she was a Keeneland specialist

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by Scav

Ok, where are you going with this?

Pleasant home ran like four consective 1's going into the BC at three different tracks I think, if you are trying to say that she was a Keeneland specialist

No, the point is that you can't make a blanket statement to throw out sheet numbers at Keeneland...

[ceejay]

Originally Posted by Scav

NEVER

I don't know if I'd say never. I spose they'll be some 3yo Aw races in the fall KEE meet that he'd fit well is. I don't give him much chance in the weight for age condition stakes anywhere though.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by ceejay

It's how fast the horse ran. I accept that; however, I give it less weight in my handicapping of how the horse will perform next time, and that's what I mean by "I throw it out." Many times I've seen horses with easy leads produce big figs that are difficult to reproduce. Especially at KEE.

So, Bernardini didn't have a pretty easy lead and run a big figure?

[ceejay]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

So, Bernardini didn't have a pretty easy lead and run a big figure?

Bernie didn't pull away untill the far turn in the Jim Dandy, and was behind untill he took the lead on the far turn as I recall @ PIM. That's not what I call loose on the lead.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by ceejay

Bernie didn't pull away untill the far turn in the Jim Dandy, and was behind untill he took the lead on the far turn as I recall @ PIM. That's not what I call loose on the lead.

So he had horses hounding him constantly down the backstretch in the Jim Dandy is what you are saying...