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Old 03-10-2008, 11:37 PM
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I have seen at least 4 different Friend's Lake Two Year Olds that look like they can run. I don't know if any of them are stars but they definitely look like runners. I wasn't a huge fan of Friend's Lake as a racehorse but I'm liking what I'm seeing so far from his offspring.
I finally saw a nice Pleasantly Perfect Two Year Old. There is a PP filly at Barrett's who looks like she can run. She is the first decent PP that I've seen."]
Heyyyy. You gonna have to give the PP's alittle while to mature. I am just glad that alot of them are being kept by there breeders, that way they will be given the time to mature. I just love him, as my screename shows!!
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:46 PM
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I have seen at least 4 different Friend's Lake Two Year Olds that look like they can run. I don't know if any of them are stars but they definitely look like runners. I wasn't a huge fan of Friend's Lake as a racehorse but I'm liking what I'm seeing so far from his offspring.
I finally saw a nice Pleasantly Perfect Two Year Old. There is a PP filly at Barrett's who looks like she can run. She is the first decent PP that I've seen.

Heyyyy. You gonna have to give the PP's alittle while to mature. I am just glad that alot of them are being kept by there breeders, that way they will be given the time to mature. I just love him, as my screename shows!!
Pleasantly Perfect was a great racehorse. I was a fan of his. I don't blame you for being a big PP fan.
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:15 AM
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450k for a friends lake............. does not make much sense to me.
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Old 03-11-2008, 02:04 AM
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450k for a friends lake............. does not make much sense to me.
looks like 2009 (or was that a yearling, which would be 2010) is the year we'll have a triple crown winner.
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Old 03-11-2008, 06:42 AM
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450k for a friends lake............. does not make much sense to me.
Who's the dam, what does it look like, how fast did it work? These are also factors in how much the horse goes for at a 2yo in training sale. Makes more sense than $16 million for a Forestry, anyway.
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Old 03-11-2008, 07:51 AM
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Who's the dam, what does it look like, how fast did it work? These are also factors in how much the horse goes for at a 2yo in training sale. Makes more sense than $16 million for a Forestry, anyway.

Speaking of 16 million horses has anyone heard how "he who must remain nameless" is taking to being a man on the prowl??
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Old 03-11-2008, 08:04 AM
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What do the Smarty Jones babies look like? Anyone seen any? Are'nt they due to start this year?
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Old 03-11-2008, 08:12 AM
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They haven't been setting the track on fire at the 2yo sales.

And speaking of scorched earth - William Tecumseh Sherman was far too kind to those who commited treason if you ask me.
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Old 03-11-2008, 07:18 AM
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450k for a friends lake............. does not make much sense to me.
how surprising.
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how surprising.
if i remember correctly friends lake won 1 meaningful race in his career, and his breeding is not very good, i dont have pp's but i am pretty sure. 450k seems like a lot, what is his stud fee ? cant be more then 15k
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if i remember correctly friends lake won 1 meaningful race in his career, and his breeding is not very good, i dont have pp's but i am pretty sure. 450k seems like a lot
The horse in question sold for $140K as a yearling.

He obviously was impressive in his preview and has moved forward the last six months.
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How is it so hard to figure out why a Friends Lake is selling for $450k? He was a GI winner by a GI winner out of a GI winner. Doesn't seem entirely unlikely to me.
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Old 03-11-2008, 09:15 AM
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if i remember correctly friends lake won 1 meaningful race in his career, and his breeding is not very good, i dont have pp's but i am pretty sure. 450k seems like a lot, what is his stud fee ? cant be more then 15k
15K is his fee. The owner of American Thoroughbred Review threw a fit over his stud fee back in 2005:

http://thoroughbredreview.com/FriendsLake3.htm
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if i remember correctly friends lake won 1 meaningful race in his career, and his breeding is not very good, i dont have pp's but i am pretty sure. 450k seems like a lot, what is his stud fee ? cant be more then 15k
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For a socalled breeding expert you seem to be off the mark on Friends Lakes breeding. He is by AP Indy, the premier sire in American racing. He is out of Antespend who won 3 grade 1's and over 1 million dollars on the track. She has produced 3 foals of running age, one is FL, a grade 1 winner and another is Seeking the Ante who is a Grade 2 winner. Antespends dam, Auspiciante, was also a multiple grade 1 winner and graded stakes producer.

Friends Lake is the best looking stallion at Airdrie (IMO) is very well balanced and well made especially for a son of AP Indy. I would think that he has at least as good a chance as Proud Citizen or Harlans Holiday, both of which are Airdrie success stories with 1st crops as 3 year olds.
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I believe Friend's Lake was a homebred. How much do you think he would have sold for at public auction Chuck?
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I don't know Cannon....

I'm pretty well aware of the positives about Friends Lake myself - and I still expected him to suck as a stallion.

He was an awful race horse. I have no idea where the speed in these drills are coming from with his babies.
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if i remember correctly friends lake won 1 meaningful race in his career, and his breeding is not very good, i dont have pp's but i am pretty sure. 450k seems like a lot, what is his stud fee ? cant be more then 15k

may i recommend pedigree query dot com?
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may i recommend pedigree query dot com?
Why yes, you may indeed. This guy is pretty funny, is he not?
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Old 03-12-2008, 03:05 PM
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if i remember correctly friends lake won 1 meaningful race in his career, and his breeding is not very good, i dont have pp's but i am pretty sure. 450k seems like a lot, what is his stud fee ? cant be more then 15k

Yea his dam has been a really frog generator... dude do a little research
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