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Old 03-06-2008, 06:31 PM
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It seems that they have changed gears and are now going to the Florida Derby. Dutrow offered the following quote to DRF......


"We got to thinkin' and drinkin' last night, and, by the time we were done, we decided the Florida Derby would be the best option," said Dutrow, who trains Big Brown for the IEAH Stables and Paul Pompa Jr.


After reading that I don't know why I don't have complete confidence in this horse moving forward.
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Old 03-06-2008, 06:36 PM
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It seems that they have changed gears and are now going to the Florida Derby. Dutrow offered the following quote to DRF......


"We got to thinkin' and drinkin' last night, and, by the time we were done, we decided the Florida Derby would be the best option," said Dutrow, who trains Big Brown for the IEAH Stables and Paul Pompa Jr.


After reading that I don't know why I don't have complete confidence in this horse moving forward.
by the time they were done thinking, or by the time they were done drinking??
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:12 PM
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It seems that they have changed gears and are now going to the Florida Derby. Dutrow offered the following quote to DRF......


"We got to thinkin' and drinkin' last night, and, by the time we were done, we decided the Florida Derby would be the best option," said Dutrow, who trains Big Brown for the IEAH Stables and Paul Pompa Jr.


After reading that I don't know why I don't have complete confidence in this horse moving forward.
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Old 03-07-2008, 07:30 AM
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It seems that they have changed gears and are now going to the Florida Derby. Dutrow offered the following quote to DRF......


"We got to thinkin' and drinkin' last night, and, by the time we were done, we decided the Florida Derby would be the best option," said Dutrow, who trains Big Brown for the IEAH Stables and Paul Pompa Jr.


After reading that I don't know why I don't have complete confidence in this horse moving forward.
Still, should be an interesting race to get BB's measure. Possibles include Elysium Fields, Tomcito and Hey Byrn.
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Old 03-07-2008, 07:46 AM
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Still, should be an interesting race to get BB's measure. Possibles include Elysium Fields, Tomcito and Hey Byrn.

I agree and am looking forward to the race. One of the best things about the seeming dearth of substantial talent in the 3YOs so far is that many of these preps are going to be fun and interesting races. The Florida Derby is shaping up as the most interesting in years. A far cry from the short field High Fly beat a few years ago.

All this hooplah over Big Brown just exagerates the lack of historical perspective some people have. I would like to see a list of all the horses, over the years, that ran one or two huge races against maidens or moderate fields that fizzled out completely when faced with real challenges. Its a lot longer than the list of these types of horses that went on to major success.
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Old 03-07-2008, 07:50 AM
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Does the list get smaller when its a grasshorse who beats a bunch of bad grasshorses on the dirt?
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Old 03-07-2008, 10:00 AM
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Does the list get smaller when its a grasshorse who beats a bunch of bad grasshorses on the dirt?
Definitely.
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Old 03-07-2008, 10:09 AM
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Does the list get smaller when its a grasshorse who beats a bunch of bad grasshorses on the dirt?
Of course. There's a lot to prove yet, but I think he's going to be a good one.

And you know very well what I think of IEAH.
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:35 AM
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At this point last year, Curlin had not beat much either. I think Big Brown could have trouble in the Derby because of his lack of experience. He still has a lot to prove. Let's see how things unfold in the next few months. I stand by what I said about the horse. He is a monster IMO.
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:43 AM
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Comparing Big Brown to Curlin at this point is extremely premature. Big Brown has a long way to go before hes even a starter in the Derby, nonetheless mentioned in the same breath as Curlin. The general rule is good horses are supposed to beat bad horses, especially when the bad horses are taken off their surface of choice. Would Big Brown be able to replicate that effort against good dirt horses, we will see shortly. I wont be surprised at all to see an up the track finish.
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:43 AM
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At this point last year, Curlin had WIPED OUT a decent maiden field while blowing the turn and bearing out in the stretch. But, I'll just have to take your word for it that BB is a monster. In fact, I'm going to BET OUT on the horse in the DERBY (assuming he makes it) on your opinion alone. Moreover, I'm going to elevate him to the top of list of the best horses I've ever seen run. JUST on YOUR say so. Cause YOU'RE SPECIAL. And you're the best when it comes to evaluating stock.

Now, take the rest of the day off.
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