3/8 (FG): LA Derby Day (6 Stakes)

miraja2 · #1 03-03-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What am I missing here? Who's going to be giving Pyro the test? Tale of Ekati maybe, but this is a strange place to begin your 3 year old year. It feels like Tagg is being pressured to get this one in the gate for the Derby.

I think ToK (and I guess maybe Majestic Warrior) are the only horses that might even have any chance of beating Pyro here.
This could be a good betting race because of Yankee Bravo being entered. Any race that includes an undefeated, stakes-winning horse that has absolutley zero chance to win usually means there is some money to pick up elsewhere. If Pyro is somehow not odds-on here, I think it will be incredibly easy money.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #2 03-03-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

I think ToK (and I guess maybe Majestic Warrior) are the only horses that might even have any chance of beating Pyro here.
This could be a good betting race because of Yankee Bravo being entered. Any race that includes an undefeated, stakes-winning horse that has absolutley zero chance to win usually means there is some money to pick up elsewhere. If Pyro is somehow not odds-on here, I think it will be incredibly easy money.

i hope alot of people think yankee bravo has no chance......

blackthroatedwind · #3 03-03-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

i hope alot of people think yankee bravo has no chance......

No chance is maybe a little much but he is probably about as unlikely a competitor as exists in this race.

NTamm1215 · #4 03-03-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

No chance is maybe a little much but he is probably about as unlikely a competitor as exists in this race.

Yankee Bravo has a chance...

If they let him run in the Mervin Muniz 30 minutes earlier carrying 111.

NT

#5 03-03-2008, 10:31 PM

I think it would be foolish to try and beat Daytona just off what you think Alex Solis is going to do. He's actually not riding that bad at the moment and this horse is on form and looks like he'll be alone on the lead again.

lemoncrush · #6 03-04-2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I think it would be foolish to try and beat Daytona just off what you think Alex Solis is going to do. He's actually not riding that bad at the moment and this horse is on form and looks like he'll be alone on the lead again.

I think it may be foolist to try to beat Daytona, strictly on the "Mike Smith" off angle which has netted us so many winners over the past couple years.

Scav · #7 03-04-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush

I think it may be foolist to try to beat Daytona, strictly on the "Mike Smith" off angle which has netted us so many winners over the past couple years.

And Solis is better? I agree that both have had their moments, but they both fit certain horses now. Solis does not fit Daytona. It pains me to tout against Daytona because he has been so good to me (nailed him singled on the end of pick threes for Del Mar, Hollywood and SA wins for 4 figure scores) but I am telling you, go back and see what Solis did with this horse when he rode him, and then look at the difference when Smith rode him.

Daytona will not win with Solis on his back. I really hope that Smith rides him when he comes to Arlington because he will win the Million if he does

2Hot4TV · #8 03-06-2008, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I think it would be foolish to try and beat Daytona just off what you think Alex Solis is going to do. He's actually not riding that bad at the moment and this horse is on form and looks like he'll be alone on the lead again.

Solis has forgotten how to ride on the front end and will be over weight from the Depends he will have to wear if he does try to run out front.

swedejxn · #9 03-07-2008, 08:00 AM

Got about 3/4 inch overnight.... only a little more expected today...
could be "good" by racetime.... doubt it makes it to firm...

miraja2 · #10 03-03-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

i hope alot of people think yankee bravo has no chance......

They should.

In the California Derby his time for the 8.5 furlongs was 1:44.57. The other race run at that distance at GG that day was won by a rather average n2x horse entered for a tag in 1:44.18 (and that one was carrying more weight than Yankee Bravo).
Neither his pedigree nor his runing style at all indicate that he will enjoy the switch to dirt.
As far as I am concerned, he would be an absolute shocker in this race.