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Old 03-03-2008, 06:11 PM
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My Breeder's Cup feelings, in general, have been stated over and over again, but one thing I will say is that I know Jim Gluckson pretty well, and I have only good things to say about him. Racing needs more Jim Glucksons. Whether I necessarily agree with what he says I very much respect him and give his comments the same respect. He's one of the good guys.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:06 PM
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My Breeder's Cup feelings, in general, have been stated over and over again, but one thing I will say is that I know Jim Gluckson pretty well, and I have only good things to say about him. Racing needs more Jim Glucksons. Whether I necessarily agree with what he says I very much respect him and give his comments the same respect. He's one of the good guys.
I am sure he is ... I thanked him up and down for the personal response. I totally disagree him but he did take the time to respond which says alot.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:23 PM
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Instead of trying to make Friday into a main course day instead of an appetizer day, how about doing away with the Friday BC concept all together, thus fixing every problem at one fell swoop?
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:26 PM
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Instead of trying to make Friday into a main course day instead of an appetizer day, how about doing away with the Friday BC concept all together, thus fixing every problem at one fell swoop?
It's remarkable to think something so brilliant can come from the mind of someone who thought Adriano was a lock from the 12 hole in the Fountain Of Youth.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:50 PM
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Hell, we just gotta look at it as another wagering day.....forget all the glitz and if it's worth playing, well then play.....if not, then don't. The Breeder's Cup LTD ain't gonna change.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:52 PM
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It's remarkable to think something so brilliant can come from the mind of someone who thought Adriano was a lock from the 12 hole in the Fountain Of Youth.

He conveniently forgot about that.
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:13 PM
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It's remarkable to think something so brilliant can come from the mind of someone who thought Adriano was a lock from the 12 hole in the Fountain Of Youth.
Or that Cool Coal Man was a piece of sheet...
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:30 PM
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I'd like to think that I won't watch or bet the races on Friday (I probably will) but I can tell you that I won't be wagerig any more money on the BC than I have in the past. if I don't cash early I won't be betting late.
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Old 03-05-2008, 05:18 AM
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I've said it before, but all of these changes to the BC is a result of the "supersize me" mentality that many sports executives have.
I always looked forward to Breeders Cup day. I wish they hadn't changed it, but they did. I will still bet it as many will. I'll most likely tread lightly on Friday and do most of my wagering on Saturday.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:16 PM
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Instead of trying to make Friday into a main course day instead of an appetizer day, how about doing away with the Friday BC concept all together, thus fixing every problem at one fell swoop?
Or even better,how about just getting rid of breeders cup altogether??
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:42 PM
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Or even better,how about just getting rid of breeders cup altogether??
Maybe I'm in the minority - but I always loved Breeders Cup Saturday. If it wasn't the greatest day in Sports - it sure was the greatest day in racing.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:43 PM
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I think people are upset because everything is a prep for the Breeder's Cup instead of the main event. The Jockey Gold Cup etc...

I love the old format
now they are just diluting the water
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:41 AM
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I think people are upset because everything is a prep for the Breeder's Cup instead of the main event. The Jockey Gold Cup etc...

I love the old format
now they are just diluting the water
"now they are just diluting the water"

who put orange juice in my orange juice?

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Old 03-03-2008, 09:48 PM
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Maybe I'm in the minority - but I always loved Breeders Cup Saturday. If it wasn't the greatest day in Sports - it sure was the greatest day in racing.
I don't think you're in the minority at all. Most racing fans love the stupid Breeders' Cup.

It is only a few of us old-fashioned types that detest it as a sport-killing monstrosity.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:52 PM
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I'm not old enough to think it was anything other than a brilliant idea.

However, they are doing a real fine job of ruining it.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:56 AM
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Maybe I'm in the minority - but I always loved Breeders Cup Saturday. If it wasn't the greatest day in Sports - it sure was the greatest day in racing.
I also did, and still do. Attending the '01 BC was one of my lifetime highlights... as was the '06 BC. however I'm in the majority that these changes are terrible.
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Old 03-04-2008, 11:10 AM
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I have always and still do love the BC. I don't understand anyone that thinks that the BC is what's messing up horse racing. Do these same people think that the Derby is messing up the sport because more and more trainers are looking at just using two preps instead of three now? The Derby hasn't changed. It's the mentality of the trainers and owners that's changed. The BC hasn't changed. It's the mentality of the trainers and the owners that's changed. The BC didn't go to Belmont and tell them to change the distances of their prep races in order to make them better suited to be preps for the BC. That was their own doing. Don't blame the BC for that. The BC didn't make guys like Frankel and Pletcher decide that they send their horses in off of two month breaks. The BC concept has not changed. It was and still is a great one.

This furor over the shuffling of the races is just silly, IMO. I think that Gluckson is absolutely correct in that most of it is because people get used to tradition and hate change. I think he's correct that in a few years, these changes will have helped the Friday card become more meaningful. I can tell you honestly that if Discreet Cat hadn't been running in the Dirt Mile, I very likely would have missed the Friday card last year. I had absolutely no interest in watching any of the other horses running. But because I was going to tune in to watch DC, I watched the other races too. This year, I will surely be tuning in to watch the Distaff (or whatever it's called) and the F/M Turf and because I'll be watching, I'll see the other races too. So for at least one fan, this move is doing exactly what Gluckson is saying they want it to do and I'm sure I'm not alone.

I've always felt that people that are reluctant to change are what's been causing the slow death of this sport. All change doesn't have to be bad. Sometimes it's good and sometimes it's necessary.
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