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Old 03-03-2008, 05:53 PM
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So the real reason behind having it at SA 2 years in a row is because they want to have Fridays races stretch until 7 pm which is not possible in the Midwest or East coast.
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Old 03-03-2008, 05:58 PM
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So the real reason behind having it at SA 2 years in a row is because they want to have Fridays races stretch until 7 pm which is not possible in the Midwest or East coast.
If they want to be creative and actually draw interest from new potential fans they would run the BC at night. At least once.

It don't take no rocket sientist to know that.
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:04 PM
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If they want to be creative and actually draw interest from new potential fans they would run the BC at night. At least once.

It don't take no rocket sientist to know that.
Know your talking -- how come the ideas on DT are so much better then the ones by the people pulling the strings at the BC?
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:10 PM
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If they want to be creative and actually draw interest from new potential fans they would run the BC at night. At least once.

It don't take no rocket sientist to know that.
Other than Hollywood which tracks are set up for night racing, than can accomidate the Cup?
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:59 PM
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Other than Hollywood which tracks are set up for night racing, than can accomidate the Cup?
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:09 PM
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Wherever. Hollywood has lights, Lone Star has lights, other tracks have lights. It's not that hard. Most of the night college football games use temporary lights on flatbed trailers.

Hell, whenever they run the BC at Churchill, the Classic is pretty much run in darkness anyway.
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:13 PM
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Wherever. Hollywood has lights, Lone Star has lights, other tracks have lights. It's not that hard. Most of the night college football games use temporary lights on flatbed trailers.

Hell, whenever they run the BC at Churchill, the Classic is pretty much run in darkness anyway.

Good luck to them getting Prime Time television coverage.....especially on any Saturday.
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:35 PM
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Fairmount has lights.

My suggestion would be to permanently re-locate the BC to Fairmount, start the races at 3:30 in the morning on Christmas, and only show the races on HRTV.

Oh yeah, and even though Fairmount actually has lights.....don't turn any of them on.
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:39 PM
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I propose to have the start time at 6 a.m. This caters to the majority of racing fans.
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:58 PM
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Fairmount has lights.

My suggestion would be to permanently re-locate the BC to Fairmount, start the races at 3:30 in the morning on Christmas, and only show the races on HRTV.

Oh yeah, and even though Fairmount actually has lights.....don't turn any of them on.
I know you are obviously joking but since you are in Chicago I am curious if you have ever been to Fairmount?
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:37 PM
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I know you are obviously joking but since you are in Chicago I am curious if you have ever been to Fairmount?
I've been to Fairmont

it doesn't have a turf course

has zero ambience
it's like betting at a bus station
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:41 PM
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I know you are obviously joking but since you are in Chicago I am curious if you have ever been to Fairmount?
Yeah I've been multiple times, although not in the last few years.

It makes Hawthorne look like Arlington.

The bus station analogy is just about right.
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:15 PM
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Good luck to them getting Prime Time television coverage.....especially on any Saturday.
The whole fricken point is that it shouldn't be on network TV...Racing is NOT a national sport.. the only time it transends into mainstream sports is when a superstar horse or story evolves.. Racing should embrace it's TVG/HRTV fan base and develop programming and content for it's showcase day, inconjuction with its wagering outlets.

Imagine experts on racing examining and delving into racing for 6 - 8 weeks prior to the races? Build your foundation then grow your business..It's really fairly simple.
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Old 03-05-2008, 05:53 AM
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The whole fricken point is that it shouldn't be on network TV...Racing is NOT a national sport.. the only time it transends into mainstream sports is when a superstar horse or story evolves.. Racing should embrace it's TVG/HRTV fan base and develop programming and content for it's showcase day, inconjuction with its wagering outlets.

Imagine experts on racing examining and delving into racing for 6 - 8 weeks prior to the races? Build your foundation then grow your business..It's really fairly simple.
But then how can the Breeders Cup make even MORE money by SELLING it's TV rights?
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:11 PM
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My Breeder's Cup feelings, in general, have been stated over and over again, but one thing I will say is that I know Jim Gluckson pretty well, and I have only good things to say about him. Racing needs more Jim Glucksons. Whether I necessarily agree with what he says I very much respect him and give his comments the same respect. He's one of the good guys.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:06 PM
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My Breeder's Cup feelings, in general, have been stated over and over again, but one thing I will say is that I know Jim Gluckson pretty well, and I have only good things to say about him. Racing needs more Jim Glucksons. Whether I necessarily agree with what he says I very much respect him and give his comments the same respect. He's one of the good guys.
I am sure he is ... I thanked him up and down for the personal response. I totally disagree him but he did take the time to respond which says alot.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:23 PM
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Instead of trying to make Friday into a main course day instead of an appetizer day, how about doing away with the Friday BC concept all together, thus fixing every problem at one fell swoop?
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:26 PM
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Instead of trying to make Friday into a main course day instead of an appetizer day, how about doing away with the Friday BC concept all together, thus fixing every problem at one fell swoop?
It's remarkable to think something so brilliant can come from the mind of someone who thought Adriano was a lock from the 12 hole in the Fountain Of Youth.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:50 PM
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Hell, we just gotta look at it as another wagering day.....forget all the glitz and if it's worth playing, well then play.....if not, then don't. The Breeder's Cup LTD ain't gonna change.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:52 PM
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It's remarkable to think something so brilliant can come from the mind of someone who thought Adriano was a lock from the 12 hole in the Fountain Of Youth.

He conveniently forgot about that.
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