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Old 03-02-2008, 10:57 PM
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Mostly because it was run like a tractor pull.
Do you expect horses to run their lifetime fastest race every time they step foot on a track, even if they haven't started in four months?
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Old 03-02-2008, 11:15 PM
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Do you expect horses to run their lifetime fastest race every time they step foot on a track, even if they haven't started in four months?
I wasn't passing judgment on the horses, just saying that is what most people think. The race was, however, run with an ABSURDLY slow pace and it would be hard for me to get overly excited about anyone in there save the winner.

Barring injury or something fluky, how is any horse from that race ever going to beat Pyro? They basically ran a quarterhorse race in which Pyro spotted them eight lengths and beat them by open lengths.
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:34 AM
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Im not trying to bad mouth any of the preps but I dont think the derby winner has lost a race this year, with the only possible exception The bad cat.
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:53 AM
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Are you seriously considering this horse could be a factor in the Derby? Sireside is sprinter/miler - Put it Back, Honour and Glory, Exuberant. Damsire Skip Trial could stay, but the female family is sprinter/miler oriented as well. Staying bloodlines often produce sprinters due to regression to the mean, but sprinting bloodlines very rarely produce stayers.
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:30 AM
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As I said 3 weeks ago, when I initially brought this colt up, it is hard to imagine a world where Put It Back's get a mile and a quarter, but I guess anything can happen.

What I am most impressed with is in a day and age where a race like this guy ran on Feb 10 would knock a colt "for a loop" this one comes right back 3 weeks later with another show.

Plesa said after his last race that he didn't think this one would be for sale. I hope she doesn't sell, but I guess we'll see.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:37 AM
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Are you seriously considering this horse could be a factor in the Derby? Sireside is sprinter/miler - Put it Back, Honour and Glory, Exuberant. Damsire Skip Trial could stay, but the female family is sprinter/miler oriented as well. Staying bloodlines often produce sprinters due to regression to the mean, but sprinting bloodlines very rarely produce stayers.
He's running 9 furlongs already, you can throw pedigree out the window.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:39 AM
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He's running 9 furlongs already, you can throw pedigree out the window.

That post was enough to make me root for him.
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:32 AM
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Are you seriously considering this horse could be a factor in the Derby? Sireside is sprinter/miler - Put it Back, Honour and Glory, Exuberant. Damsire Skip Trial could stay, but the female family is sprinter/miler oriented as well. Staying bloodlines often produce sprinters due to regression to the mean, but sprinting bloodlines very rarely produce stayers.
His 2nd dam Stormy Divorce (Storm Bird - sire of Storm Cat) did produce False Promises who won the G3 Hawthorne Derby @ 9F. There is a lot of speed in the family but the conduit mare profile shows more of a speed/stamina balance.

Agreed, one does not get a warm fuzzy stamina feeling from his pedigree. But he is a 5 gen outcross with a 3.00 DI so we'll have to watch him on the track.
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