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Old 03-02-2008, 07:10 AM
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What percentage of the trainers on the backstretch do you estimate have their horses on a regular regimen of steroids?
It is hard to guess an accurate number but if given in low doses there is no negative impact or performancing enhancement. I'm talking about 5 cc per month. One of the biggest problems with the whole thing is guys like Van Berg who are out of touch with reality spout off in the press without realizing that their personal opinion (which is severely slanted and if taken at face value seems like a bitter rant) will be used as propoganda by politicians like Whitfield (who is not your friend unless you are a jockey) and Arthur and company. Using hysteria created by baseball and editorials within the industry which are mostly based upon rumor and partial truths, they have pretty much tied the hands of trainers and owners that want to do things within the guidelines of the rules. By effectively setting up and implementing rules BEFORE the research is completed, and casting stones at those who would possibly use LEGAL medications, the true colors of the "powers that be" is shown. It is simply a PR move with zero regard to horses or horseman.

Mind you I am not suggesting that anabolics should not be regulated (as they have not been for over 30 years). But what I am saying is that using them does not make you a bad guy and there are certainly legitimate, fair uses for them. Abuse of steroids should not be tolerated and is an absolutely negative for both the health of horses and the sport in general. But the rules are not being made to deal with abuse, they are simply making this out as a good guys versus bad guys fight which is about the worst way to handle the situaion and can only cause more negative press along the way because horses will still dramatically improve when moved into certain trainers barns and the public will still believe what it chooses to believe.
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:49 AM
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i took a six day regimen of steroids a few weeks ago. works wonders on a strained back.
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Old 03-02-2008, 09:08 AM
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i took a six day regimen of steroids a few weeks ago. works wonders on a strained back.
Did you get them from Brian McNamee or Andy Pettitte's dad?
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Old 03-02-2008, 10:15 AM
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Did you get them from Brian McNamee or Andy Pettitte's dad?
just the family doctor, sorry. and i doubt i'd be any better at baseball than before.
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Old 03-02-2008, 05:10 PM
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It is hard to guess an accurate number but if given in low doses there is no negative impact or performancing enhancement. I'm talking about 5 cc per month. One of the biggest problems with the whole thing is guys like Van Berg who are out of touch with reality spout off in the press without realizing that their personal opinion (which is severely slanted and if taken at face value seems like a bitter rant) will be used as propoganda by politicians like Whitfield (who is not your friend unless you are a jockey) and Arthur and company. Using hysteria created by baseball and editorials within the industry which are mostly based upon rumor and partial truths, they have pretty much tied the hands of trainers and owners that want to do things within the guidelines of the rules. By effectively setting up and implementing rules BEFORE the research is completed, and casting stones at those who would possibly use LEGAL medications, the true colors of the "powers that be" is shown. It is simply a PR move with zero regard to horses or horseman.

Mind you I am not suggesting that anabolics should not be regulated (as they have not been for over 30 years). But what I am saying is that using them does not make you a bad guy and there are certainly legitimate, fair uses for them. Abuse of steroids should not be tolerated and is an absolutely negative for both the health of horses and the sport in general. But the rules are not being made to deal with abuse, they are simply making this out as a good guys versus bad guys fight which is about the worst way to handle the situaion and can only cause more negative press along the way because horses will still dramatically improve when moved into certain trainers barns and the public will still believe what it chooses to believe.

All drugs have valid indications for humans or animals nobody with half a brain questions that. When valid gets replaced with greed the shat hits the fan.
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