CRIST: Changes dilute Cup's appeal

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

They'd be 100% correct. Look at Kentucky Oaks day. Sure, there are probably better ideas that they can come up with and hopefully, they will continue to be open to tinkering with it to find what is the absolute best situation. But these changes aren't going to have any negative impact on the fans that watch the races at all. None.

That's just so wrong that it's almost depressing.

There will be many people who don't see the Friday races that will be denied seeing the races decided Saturday that belong as part of the marquis event. Instead they will see inconsequential filler.

Some of us " fans " aren't enamoured with turf sprints....now we are forced to deal with one if we want to play Pick-4s on Saturday ( involving other true championship races ). I know this fan won't be playing.

[King Glorious]

Why does the Kentucky Oaks work on Friday but people think that the audience for the Friday BC races won't?

[blackthroatedwind]

The Kentucky Oaks Day is basically a holiday in Louisville. Do you think Pasadena is planning a similar situation?

The Kentucky Oaks is big in Louisville, and it is part of the one race that captures the attention of non-racing fans, and yet it's supporting races are still probably missed by the vast majority of racing fans.

[Payson Dave]

I use the term "fan" loosely...perhaps "wagering participant" is more appropo...

[justindew]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The Kentucky Oaks Day is basically a holiday in Louisville.

....and Churchill gets 50,000 or more on Thursday before the Oaks. And schools are closed on Friday.

[sumitas]

Originally Posted by justindew

....and Churchill gets 50,000 or more on Thursday before the Oaks. And schools are closed on Friday.

Never say never.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

That's just so wrong that it's almost depressing.

There will be many people who don't see the Friday races that will be denied seeing the races decided Saturday that belong as part of the marquis event. Instead they will see inconsequential filler.

Some of us " fans " aren't enamoured with turf sprints....now we are forced to deal with one if we want to play Pick-4s on Saturday ( involving other true championship races ). I know this fan won't be playing.

this is the biggest problem i see with these moves, i agree completely. they've watered down saturday terribly.

[sumitas]

The way I look at it...the more the merrier. I like giving the horses an opportunity to compete. I may not agree with the exact lineup, but generally I feel a star can be born in any race. I'm positive about the 2 days.

[Phalaris1913]

I may not agree with the exact lineup, but generally I feel a star can be born in any race.

Herein lies the problem.

Breeders' Cup races should not be a place to expect stars to be born.

The Breeders' Cup is a celebration of the greatest horses in our sport; not a place to look for future talent among obscurities.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Phalaris1913

Herein lies the problem.

Breeders' Cup races should not be a place to expect stars to be born.

The Breeders' Cup is a celebration of the greatest horses in our sport; not a place to look for future talent among obscurities.

That's a great point.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Phalaris1913

Herein lies the problem.

Breeders' Cup races should not be a place to expect stars to be born.

The Breeders' Cup is a celebration of the greatest horses in our sport; not a place to look for future talent among obscurities.

Right. And instead of what was just a short time ago a chance to see many of these best horses race against each other in the same race, we now have more and more opportunities for them to NOT run against each other.

--Dunbar