Top 25 3yo's 1987-2007

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by The Bid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvpM9F5w30g

This is what the great ones look like when they are asked to run.

Has to be on that list.

I agree.

That horse just skipped over the ground when he ran. It looked like he was running on air and never really exerting himself.

[blackthroatedwind]

Am I the only one sensing a Black Widow circling its prey?

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Greg Gilchrist has an incredible filly right now. She was my favorite HIP # from Fasig Tipton Calder sale last year. Something fairly significant showed up on her x-rays though. She had two incredible races last year, and then must have gotten injured. I hope she makes it back to the track. One to watch if she comes back. Her name is Indyanne.

A filly named High Resolve is in his barn right now as well, and she is undefeated. 5 for 5 so far. They are really spotting her right. She's pretty nice too, but I don't think she is nearly as talented as Indyanne.

[Athletics005]

I am probably the biggest Lost in the Fog fan in the world. He was my favorite horse and what drew me into horse racing. I was there for his debut at GGF and have been amazed ever since. He was a remarkable horse that possessed the unfair combination of talent and heart.

The competition that he faced wasn't as bad as most say. He just made them look bad.

His career was short but dynamic. The 48,000 purchase had a 109 beyer as a 2 year old, won his first 10 races, dominated the competition in the Carry Back (116 beyer) a full second faster than those running in the Smile. When his body was full of cancer, he posted a 112 beyer in winning the Aristides against Golden Shaheen winner Kelly's Landing. "He probably had it the last three or four times he ran," Gilchrist said. "There were 100 pounds of tumors in that horse when they did the autopsy on him."

In regards to his Breeders Cup loss, Aleo believes Lost In The Fog may have been exposed to something harmful at Belmont Park that ignited the cancer before he ran in the Breeders' Cup.

"I'm sure it happened back there," he said. "Two stalls from him, there was a champion filly from Canada that ran bad the same day. And she died a month before The Fog with the same cancer. There was some rumor that they sprayed for rats or something, but I know he wasn't right that day, and so did Greg. He lunged out at me, and he never did that before. He put a bruise on my chest a foot in diameter. That's one of the symptoms of a sick horse"

I am not willing to say he was one of the best 3 year olds of the past 20 years because I don't have the same historical perspective as other, but he was a remarkable horse that could possibly have been one of the all time greats if he was allowed to prove it.

For a great article: http://www.sfweekly.com/2005-10-26/n...comes-the-fog/

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Athletics005

In regards to his Breeders Cup loss, Aleo believes Lost In The Fog may have been exposed to something harmful at Belmont Park that ignited the cancer before he ran in the Breeders' Cup.

"I'm sure it happened back there," he said. "Two stalls from him, there was a champion filly from Canada that ran bad the same day. And she died a month before The Fog with the same cancer. There was some rumor that they sprayed for rats or something, but I know he wasn't right that day, and so did Greg. He lunged out at me, and he never did that before. He put a bruise on my chest a foot in diameter. That's one of the symptoms of a sick horse"

This is some pretty ridiculous and irresponsible garbage.

[Athletics005]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

This is some pretty ridiculous and irresponsible garbage.

You have to admit thats a mighty big coincidence that a horse two stall away from him died from the same cancer that only about 3 in a 1000 horses get.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Athletics005

You have to admit thats a mighty big coincidence that a horse two stall away from him died from the same cancer that only about 3 in a 1000 horses get.

What was the horse's name? Where is the report that backs this up? Were they the only two affected? What other possible reasons could Lost in the Fog have developed cancer?

I could go on and on. The owner gets slack because he's elderly.....but that doesn't mean it isn't BS and irresponsible. I don't believe one word of it.

[Athletics005]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

What was the horse's name? Where is the report that backs this up? Were they the only two affected? What other possible reasons could Lost in the Fog have developed cancer?

I could go on and on. The owner gets slack because he's elderly.....but that doesn't mean it isn't BS and irresponsible. I don't believe one word of it.

I did some research just for the last 15 minutes. The fillys name is Knights Templar.

[Athletics005]

"one trainer i work for (danny vella) trained a filly named Knights Templar... this filly was the 2yo filly of the year in canada last year and went to the breeders cup. while stabled for the breeders cup she was right beside lost in the fog..... and she was euthanized a few weeks ago for the exact same type of cancer. "

http://equination.net/forum/viewtopi...1d865cff521363

That certainly backs Aleo up.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Athletics005

I did some research just for the last 15 minutes. The fillys name is Knights Templar.

And what did the research tell you? Was it confirmed she died of cancer?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

What was the horse's name? Where is the report that backs this up? Were they the only two affected? What other possible reasons could Lost in the Fog have developed cancer?

I could go on and on. The owner gets slack because he's elderly.....but that doesn't mean it isn't BS and irresponsible. I don't believe one word of it.

He's right about the filly dying of the same lymphoma and where they were stabled... but I don't buy the reason given by Aleo. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY they would spray a potentially carcinogenic substance into the Belmont barns with hundreds of millions of horseflesh soon to be stabled there (let alone ANY horses).

Originally Posted by Athletics005

I did some research just for the last 15 minutes. The fillys name is Knights Templar.

That is the one. Trained by Mark Casse, won a couple stakes at Woodbine.

[SentToStud]

I'm adding one more to my list.

If Strike the Gold, Hansel, Best Pal and Corporate Report had been born another year, Mane Minister would have won the Triple Crown in 1991.

He also would have doubled his number of lifetime wins. Mane Minister makes my list.

I'm thinking about adding Hawkster as well for his efforts in 1989 when he ran 5th in each TC race (arguably harder than Mane Minister's achievement).

[Cannon Shell]

I know he just misses the year range but there were few 3 year olds that were as good as this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-MRD9QutB8

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I know he just misses the year range but there were few 3 year olds that were as good as this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-MRD9QutB8

I'm still waiting for Eternal Prince to soften him up....

The video on this one is very poor but it shows the heart this horse had.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuYas-bB2iY

I'd love to see a video of the 85 Monmouth Handicap, to this day the most impressive performance I've seen by a confirmed frontrunner.

[King Glorious]

I can't believe that some people have listed Europeans, even made a list exclusively of Euros and Lammtarra wasn't on it. Amazing.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I can't believe that some people have listed Europeans, even made a list exclusively of Euros and Lammtarra wasn't on it. Amazing.

4 starts.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

4 starts.

So what. Would it have been better if he had six more starts in 1995 and lost them all? If a 3yo wins the Derby, King George, and Arc, but lost the 2000 Guineas, Irish Derby, and the Juddmonte International, he's had an exceptional year. If an American horse broke his maiden in October then won the Kentucky Derby, Hollywood Gold Cup, and BC Classic, nobody would doubt how good that horse was. Greatness can be seen in one start. Gayle Sayers didn't need to play more than one season for people to know how good he was. People really need to get over this thing about number of starts. I suppose that if an American horse misses all of the preps but then makes his 3yo debut in the Kentucky Derby and wins the TC and retires, he's not great because he only made three starts? That's foolish.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by GPK

proving my ignorance here...but Batagglia used to call the KY Derby???


As a wise man on here once said...

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!!

Yes... even the great ones have to step aside though. He has done enough

[tiggerv]

This is your winner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW9AG9HSkgU

[KirisClown]

Originally Posted by tiggerv

This is your winner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW9AG9HSkgU

Dave Johnson had a nice line in there...

"Holy Bull is a champion.. there he is.. and you'll never forget him"