Curlin in race #5 at Nad Al Sheba on Thursday!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

With him getting ready to race in the Dubai World Cup, I would have hoped that Robby wouldn't have asked him if he didn't have to carrying that much weight for that far of a distance off a significant layoff. I really didn't like the move as I thought it would have been too much for the horse to do before the DWC, but we're not talking about a typical GI horse here.

In 10 years from now, this horse will be considered one of the greatest ever to step foot on the track. Enjoy him.

no he won't.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no he won't.

All time greats, I'm not sure... but I've seen him run live 5 times now, and he's damn good, DAMN good- and I've never been a fan of his. The Haskell was a clunker but other than that he's never run a bad race, the Derby was a very respectable effort all things considered. The rest of the races were excellent to outstanding. Let's be serious... there isn't a horse in the States that can warm him up right now.

I liked Robby's approach to the race, put him in the clear, just do enough, save the big run for the DWC.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by philcski

All time greats, I'm not sure... but I've seen him run live 5 times now, and he's damn good, DAMN good- and I've never been a fan of his. The Haskell was a clunker but other than that he's never run a bad race, the Derby was a very respectable effort all things considered. The rest of the races were excellent to outstanding. Let's be serious... there isn't a horse in the States that can warm him up right now.

I liked Robby's approach to the race, put him in the clear, just do enough, save the big run for the DWC.

Robby Albarado deserves as much credit for this horse's success as I do for the Giants Super Bowl win. Give me a break Phil.....you're a LOT smarter than that.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Robby Albarado deserves as much credit for this horse's success as I do for the Giants Super Bowl win. Give me a break Phil.....you're a LOT smarter than that.

I'm talking about this race in particular, no need to do anything stupid and get the horse in trouble before the big one. Hell I could have rode him to victory in half his races

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Robby Albarado deserves as much credit for this horse's success as I do for the Giants Super Bowl win. Give me a break Phil.....you're a LOT smarter than that.

I believe his assessment is correct for this particular race though...

[GPK]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I believe his assessment is correct for this particular race though...

she has spoken.....

Yeah Robbie should be commended for not getting the horse in trouble...

This is pointed out because the jockey colony in the states is that bad.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yeah Robbie should be commended for not getting the horse in trouble...

This is pointed out because the jockey colony in the states is that bad.

When has the jockey colony in the US not been bad to horse players?

I have one name...

Garrett Gomez

[Cannon Shell]

I like Phil's backhanded compliment for Albarado's ride today. I interpreted it as "He didn't screw up and get checked three times by being cute like he does so often"

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I like Phil's backhanded compliment for Albarado's ride today. I interpreted it as "He didn't screw up and get checked three times by being cute like he does so often"

BINGO...

I am NOT an Albarado fan.

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yeah Robbie should be commended for not getting the horse in trouble...

This is pointed out because the jockey colony in the states is that bad.

To me jockeys are like referees... the less you hear about them, the better. I honestly believe you can count the number of "good" jockeys on one hand right now (Prado, Corny Velasquez, Gomez, ??)

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by philcski

BINGO...

I am NOT an Albarado fan.



To me jockeys are like referees... the less you hear about them, the better. I honestly believe you can count the number of "good" jockeys on one hand right now (Prado, Corny Velasquez, Gomez, ??)

whew..i was scared for a bit.........

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by philcski

BINGO...

I am NOT an Albarado fan.



To me jockeys are like referees... the less you hear about them, the better. I honestly believe you can count the number of "good" jockeys on one hand right now (Prado, Corny Velasquez, Gomez, ??)

And the occasional one is on the take

Originally Posted by philcski

BINGO...

I am NOT an Albarado fan.



To me jockeys are like referees... the less you hear about them, the better. I honestly believe you can count the number of "good" jockeys on one hand right now (Prado, Corny Velasquez, Gomez, ??)

It's just scary that Corny and Gomez are considered top jockeys. Sure they're good, but the fact there isn't anyone outside of Prado that's better is scary.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by philcski

All time greats, I'm not sure... but I've seen him run live 5 times now, and he's damn good, DAMN good- and I've never been a fan of his. The Haskell was a clunker but other than that he's never run a bad race, the Derby was a very respectable effort all things considered. The rest of the races were excellent to outstanding. Let's be serious... there isn't a horse in the States that can warm him up right now.

I liked Robby's approach to the race, put him in the clear, just do enough, save the big run for the DWC.

he spent all year in the same company, beating hard spun in the fall by the same distance street sense beat him in the spring. the top older horse last year was lawyer ron, if that helps keep things in perspective. curlin is good compared to the rest of the crop, but i don't he'd stack up very well against horses over the last few years, let alone the last century or so.
i think jess jackson did a very smart thing in keeping curlin in training, since all the other horses who could make him run a bit all left the scene. just like invasor at this point last year. and i'd take invasor over curlin....

hell, i'd even put bernardini over curlin at this point. staying in training at four, altho i appreciate it, does not make him a better horse.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by philcski

All time greats, I'm not sure... but I've seen him run live 5 times now, and he's damn good, DAMN good- and I've never been a fan of his. .

*having bad flashbacks of you after the Preakness*

[The Bid]

Prado is the best jockey in the business. If hes on the best horse you generally are given a good shot to win

I cant stand Robby Albarado. He waits too long to ask for run, and hes always getting horses in trouble.

Gomez is a bonehead, hes just a strong finisher

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Prado is the best jockey in the business. If hes on the best horse you generally are given a good shot to win

I cant stand Robby Albarado. He waits too long to ask for run, and hes always getting horses in trouble.

Gomez is a bonehead, hes just a strong finisher

I disagree. I think Gomez is in a league of his own, and he keeps proving it every year by being at the top of the money won on horse's list.

He always puts a horse in a position to win, and he is the best finisher in the US. He gets more out of the horses than anyone else because he is so physical on them.

IMO, Prado is good, but he isn't as good as Gomez. If Prado was better than Gomez, he would be beating him on the money earned list.

To me, denying that Gomez is the best jockey at this point is like denying that Todd Pletcher is the best trainer.

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I disagree. I think Gomez is in a league of his own, and he keeps proving it every year by being at the top of the money won on horse's list.

He always puts a horse in a position to win, and he is the best finisher in the US. He gets more out of the horses than anyone else because he is so physical on them.

IMO, Prado is good, but he isn't as good as Gomez. If Prado was better than Gomez, he would be beating him on the money earned list.

To me, denying that Gomez is the best jockey at this point is like denying that Todd Pletcher is the best trainer.

agree, give me Gomez over Prado anyday. I think I would rather have Kent D as of late over both anyways, call me crazy but he has been $$$$ for me.

[whodey17]

Curlin looked great today. Not sure of the level of competition, but he looked great.

Jockeys--amazing that some on here know about jockeys and their jobs. i had no clue that some of you were past jockeys.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I disagree. I think Gomez is in a league of his own, and he keeps proving it every year by being at the top of the money won on horse's list.

He always puts a horse in a position to win, and he is the best finisher in the US. He gets more out of the horses than anyone else because he is so physical on them.

IMO, Prado is good, but he isn't as good as Gomez. If Prado was better than Gomez, he would be beating him on the money earned list.

To me, denying that Gomez is the best jockey at this point is like denying that Todd Pletcher is the best trainer.

Prado could have a lot more in earnings if he jumped coasts for wherever the biggest purses are everyday like Gomez does. Prado was also injured and missed the BC which makes comparing earnings in 2007 completely irrelevant. In 2006 they were seperated by less than $350,000.