Bernadini/the reason for my doubts

[blackthroatedwind]

First of all, you are whining because you lost a bet, nothing more and nothing less.

So, trainer's are suddenly accountable ( in your world that is ) for everything they say. Good to know. Then, perhaps Dutrow should be held accountable for saying, in print, that Wild Desert was the best horse he had been around since Saint Liam. Boy did he defraud the poor betting public who were stupid enough to listen to him and bet Wild Desert in his next two ( losing ) efforts.

Try handicapping and blaming yourself when you lose for a change. Might make you reevaluate some of your handicapping principles and, believe it or not, strengthen your game.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

First of all, you are whining because you lost a bet, nothing more and nothing less.

So, trainer's are suddenly accountable ( in your world that is ) for everything they say. Good to know. Then, perhaps Dutrow should be held accountable for saying, in print, that Wild Desert was the best horse he had been around since Saint Liam. Boy did he defraud the poor betting public who were stupid enough to listen to him and bet Wild Desert in his next two ( losing ) efforts.

Try handicapping and blaming yourself when you lose for a change. Might make you reevaluate some of your handicapping principles and, believe it or not, strengthen your game.

Thanks, next time I'm looking for a grade one horse to buy I will think of those things.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

First of all, you are whining because you lost a bet, nothing more and nothing less.

So, trainer's are suddenly accountable ( in your world that is ) for everything they say. Good to know. Then, perhaps Dutrow should be held accountable for saying, in print, that Wild Desert was the best horse he had been around since Saint Liam. Boy did he defraud the poor betting public who were stupid enough to listen to him and bet Wild Desert in his next two ( losing ) efforts.

Try handicapping and blaming yourself when you lose for a change. Might make you reevaluate some of your handicapping principles and, believe it or not, strengthen your game.

You know Blackthroat. A few years back, maybe 7-9 years ago a guy up here at the track had a monster pik-6 going with a Frankel filly in the Ballerina. he had singled her and Bailey was aboard. She was a very short price. I felt she was overbet and wound up hitting the race when Bailey had no choice but to go inside down the lane and got in traffic trouble. The guy got beat out of a horrible score and sent so far as to blame Bailey and scream at him. I felt for the guy. I was sittiing in a box near him when it happened and it was awful to watch. Its up to debate whether the filly would have won or not with a cleaner trip. I believe it was Honest Lady who was beaten and I think it was a Shug filly who beat her. I don't know if you remember that race or not. Do you think that guy had a legitimate gripe to be mad at Bailey? I think he did. I also think I have a legitimate gripe with a clown who sends out a short horse in a grade two race and tells everyone how ready the horse is.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by oracle80

You know Blackthroat. A few years back, maybe 7-9 years ago a guy up here at the track had a monster pik-6 going with a Frankel filly in the Ballerina. he had singled her and Bailey was aboard. She was a very short price. I felt she was overbet and wound up hitting the race when Bailey had no choice but to go inside down the lane and got in traffic trouble. The guy got beat out of a horrible score and sent so far as to blame Bailey and scream at him. I felt for the guy. I was sittiing in a box near him when it happened and it was awful to watch. Its up to debate whether the filly would have won or not with a cleaner trip. I believe it was Honest Lady who was beaten and I think it was a Shug filly who beat her. I don't know if you remember that race or not. Do you think that guy had a legitimate gripe to be mad at Bailey? I think he did. I also think I have a legitimate gripe with a clown who sends out a short horse in a grade two race and tells everyone how ready the horse is.

Do you want this to denegrate into a pissing match about racetrack behavoir. Think VERY carefully before answering this.

Dream Supreme, trained by Bill Mott ( with assistant trainer Tom Albertrani ) trained her, and excuse me if I beg to differ that Bailey had " no choice " about taking the rail. It is, however, a 100% lie that I yelled at Bailey. Listen carefully - A 100% LIE!

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Do you want this to denegrate into a pissing match about racetrack behavoir. Think VERY carefully before answering this.

Dream Supreme, trained by Bill Mott ( with assistant trainer Tom Albertrani ) trained her, and excuse me if I beg to differ that Bailey had " no choice " about taking the rail. It is, however, a 100% lie that I yelled at Bailey. Listen carefully - A 100% LIE!

Actually I was speaking about a friend of Zitos from NYC. Guy had an absolute meltdown after the race and during it. He was live that day with Frankel and I guess it was Mott not Shug who won. I remember hitting the race because Nick had seen the winner train or something like that and we bet her and hit an exacta or tri or something like that. Nicks friend was not quite so pleased with the outcome as we were.

And actually Blackthroat Lansdon and I lost a tough pick-6 last year which paid over 100 grand because I missed Indian Vale. I blamed only myself for tossing her based on a slow sheet number debut and disregarding the breeding/trainer angle. I remember talking with you about it last year. I do not blame trainers/jocks when I lose with regularity. But that horse was dead short yesterday and he should be ashmaed of himself for either thinking he wasnt or representing that he was.