Why all the hate for the 3 yr olds???

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cardus

It's nice to know that you are more successful in average races.

I'm average in successful races.

[kgar311]

I really dont understand some of these posts??? Ive read through alot and all I see is people saying the crop sucks. In february? I bet there are some horses out there (at least 5 or 6 ) that havent even run a race yet that will make it to the derby. Few years ago I had no idea who Barbaro was until he won the derby. Then there was Bernardini after that. Theres always a huge scramble to get the graded money under these horses belts early to get to the Derby, most horses arent ready. Then the big guns start to emerge. With Pyro and War Pass heading the trail I see an exciting campaign to the derby this year.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by kgar311

I really dont understand some of these posts??? Ive read through alot and all I see is people saying the crop sucks. In february? I bet there are some horses out there (at least 5 or 6 ) that havent even run a race yet that will make it to the derby. Few years ago I had no idea who Barbaro was until he won the derby. Then there was Bernardini after that. Theres always a huge scramble to get the graded money under these horses belts early to get to the Derby, most horses arent ready. Then the big guns start to emerge. With Pyro and War Pass heading the trail I see an exciting campaign to the derby this year.

While I find the supposed disgust of some people an exageration, other than the very exciting War Pass, there have not been any particularly fast races from this crop, and while there is certainly plenty of time and room for improvement, right now there doesn't appear to be an enormous amount of high end talent out there. And, if you hadn't heard of Barbaro until he won the Derby, I think it's fair to say that those offering opinions here are following things a LOT closer than you.....whether one agrees with them or not.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

While I find the supposed disgust of some people an exageration, other than the very exciting War Pass, there have not been any particularly fast races from this crop, and while there is certainly plenty of time and room for improvement, right now there doesn't appear to be an enormous amount of high end talent out there. And, if you hadn't heard of Barbaro until he won the Derby, I think it's fair to say that those offering opinions here are following things a LOT closer than you.....whether one agrees with them or not.

Of course ive heard of Barbaro before the race but not in the context of "super Horse" as everyone decided to put him in after the derby. Also its not far fetched to think that there is a couple of horses out there in the next few weeks that will break their maidens and go on to a couple stakes races and earn enough graded stkes money to get in.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by kgar311

Of course ive heard of Barbaro before the race but not in the context of "super Horse" as everyone decided to put him in after the derby. Also its not far fetched to think that there is a couple of horses out there in the next few weeks that will break their maidens and go on to a couple stakes races and earn enough graded stkes money to get in.

Actually, that is beyond far fetched. It's borderline ludicrous.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by kgar311

I really dont understand some of these posts??? Ive read through alot and all I see is people saying the crop sucks. In february? I bet there are some horses out there (at least 5 or 6 ) that havent even run a race yet that will make it to the derby. Few years ago I had no idea who Barbaro was until he won the derby. Then there was Bernardini after that. Theres always a huge scramble to get the graded money under these horses belts early to get to the Derby, most horses arent ready. Then the big guns start to emerge. With Pyro and War Pass heading the trail I see an exciting campaign to the derby this year.

Wait till you hear about Curlin.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Wait till you hear about Curlin.

is that that dubai horse?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

is that that dubai horse?

You'll find out about him later. Just remember you heard it here first.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

You'll find out about him later. Just remember you heard it here first.

we will

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by kgar311

I really dont understand some of these posts??? Ive read through alot and all I see is people saying the crop sucks. In february? I bet there are some horses out there (at least 5 or 6 ) that havent even run a race yet that will make it to the derby. Few years ago I had no idea who Barbaro was until he won the derby. Then there was Bernardini after that. Theres always a huge scramble to get the graded money under these horses belts early to get to the Derby, most horses arent ready. Then the big guns start to emerge. With Pyro and War Pass heading the trail I see an exciting campaign to the derby this year.

i agree. these trainers sit on horses now. the "baby your horse" angle is played all over the place. frankly i think no conclusions can be made yet. the crop with Barbaro and Bernardini stunk. after Barbaros tragedy Bernardini won the travers and other races by default, thats why Invasor handed his a$$ to him in the BC. john wards travers starter that year raced in a non winners of 2 a couple weeks ago at GP and was up the track. i would wait a few months before passing judgement. with the fact that these horses retire after 3 doesn't help. the potential is never reached and the older division is usually weak . when they move up to the BC classic theres not much to compare too. they got to make horse racing about winning not breeding. these rich owners back in the day used to run for pride and bragging rights, not whos going to write the biggest check in november.