Freshman Sires

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Excuse me I'm not hip with all of this trivial nerd stuff.

He was in the Keeneland Fall '06 sale. I just don't get why you are comparing PP's first crop to Mineshaft's 2nd(?) crop. Of course you're possibly the most confusing person I've ever encountered on the internet.

Mineshaft's first crop of two year olds was last year. Pleasantly Perfect's first crop of two year olds is this year. I'm comparing their first crops, in which there is a very limited sample of Pleasantly Perfects in two year old in training sales so far.

A lot of the Mineshafts don't move well at all. However, a few are really good.

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Mineshaft's first crop of two year olds was last year. Pleasantly Perfect's first crop of two year olds is this year. I'm comparing their first crops, in which there is a very limited sample of Pleasantly Perfects in two year old in training sales so far.

I just don't understand how you can dismiss Mineshaft's crop when one of his babies just won a significant derby prep. It's just odd. It's like you have no idea what you're talking about.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I just don't understand how you can dismiss Mineshaft's crop when one of his babies just won a significant derby prep. It's just odd. It's like you have no idea what you're talking about.

I didn't dismiss the Mineshafts. I just said his babies were way overhyped during the two year old in training sales last year because most of the two year old Mineshafts in the sales were not that great. Everyone was talking about how wonderful the Mineshafts were in the two year old sales when I thought that the Harlan's Holdays in the two year old sales were much better. It doesn't mean that I don't think that Mineshaft won't have outstanding individuals. I already said that one of his fillies from a Keeneland sale was awesome. It just means that his babies overall did not deserve all the hype they were getting from based on most of the individuals that were entered in the two year olds in training sales last year.

Vindications in the two year old sales were also overhyped.

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I didn't dismiss the Mineshafts. I just said his babies were way overhyped during the two year old in training sales last year because most of the two year old Mineshafts in the sales were not that great. Everyone was talking about how wonderful the Mineshafts were in the two year old sales when I thought that the Harlan's Holdays in the two year old sales were much better. It doesn't mean that I don't think that Mineshaft won't have outstanding individuals. I already said that one of his fillies from a Keeneland sale was awesome. It just means that his babies overall did not deserve all the hype they were getting from based on most of the individuals that were entered in the two year olds in training sales last year.

Vindications in the two year old sales were also overhyped.

What is this hype you speak of? You mean to tell me people who aren't trainers and owners get excited about yearlings?

That's just baffling to me. I equate it to a guy going to a pop warner football game his client's nephew is playing in because the kid could end up being in the nfl.

I know, I know. You plan on being an owner one day. Oh to be young again! To have dreams and aspirations!! Delusions of grandeur!! Vanity!! Oh how I miss those days.

But really that's like the guy at the pop warner game justifying his decision to attend because he might be his financial planner in the future when he's in the NFL.

See? I can be creative and dramatic too. Doesn't make it sane, however.

[Cajungator26]

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[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Who says that I won't?

It's ok to have aspirations but don't be delusional about your earning power...

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

What is this hype you speak of? You mean to tell me people who aren't trainers and owners get excited about yearlings?

That's just baffling to me. I equate it to a guy going to a pop warner football game his client's nephew is playing in because the kid could end up being in the nfl.

I know, I know. You plan on being an owner one day. Oh to be young again! To have dreams and aspirations!! Delusions of grandeur!! Vanity!! Oh how I miss those days.

But really that's like the guy at the pop warner game justifying his decision to attend because he might be his financial planner in the future when he's in the NFL.

See? I can be creative and dramatic too. Doesn't make it sane, however.

When did the conversation ever involve yearlings? I get excited about the two year olds for certain reasons...well, I can't say.

Well, I reckon if you are successful in life, and make enough money that you can be a race horse owner. I already own a horse (could sell him buy a racehorse, but I love him too much), and need to have a solid career before I invest in the racehorses. I could easily go into racing partnerships right now, but don't want to because I want to be able to make decisions over my investments.

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

When did the conversation ever involve yearlings? I get excited about the two year olds for certain reasons...well, I can't say.

Well, I reckon if you are successful in life, and make enough money that you can be a race horse owner. I already own a horse (could sell him buy a racehorse, but I love him too much), and need to have a solid career before I invest in the racehorses. I could easily go into racing partnerships right now, but don't want to because I want to be able to make decisions over my investments.

Yearlings, two year olds, semantics. The point is that most of these horses are too rich for even a successful person to purchase. Do you plan on being so successful that you would have $200,000 to spend on one horse? Can you answer that with a yes and actually believe it?

And furthermore a high number of them don't even make it to the races, much less break their maidens. It's a horrible investment if you don't have at least eight figures in the bank.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yearlings, two year olds, semantics. The point is that most of these horses are too rich for even a successful person to purchase. Do you plan on being so successful that you would have $200,000 to spend on one horse? Can you answer that with a yes and actually believe it?

And furthermore a high number of them don't even make it to the races, much less break their maidens. It's a horrible investment if you don't have at least eight figures in the bank.

Who says that I won't?

[_ed_]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

You mean to tell me people who aren't trainers and owners get excited about yearlings?

I sure do. I always go to the yearling sales here and just sit there and watch it for a few hours, find it really fascinating.

Especially if I later see some of the horses I saw go through the ring on the racetrack.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by _ed_

I sure do. I always go to the yearling sales here and just sit there and watch it for a few hours, find it really fascinating.

Especially if I later see some of the horses I saw go through the ring on the racetrack.

And you do get to see a lot of them later on, which is a good thing. I like to follow them too. You learn a lot that way. I don't get to go to the yearling sales though, and often don't have time to watch them over the internet. One day I will though...

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

When will all of this end? I mean as amusing as it all is, it's getting to be pretty desperate now isn't it?

as sad as it is entertaining.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

When will all of this end? I mean as amusing as it all is, it's getting to be pretty desperate now isn't it?

I agree 100% percent... It's almost dare I say Abe like?