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Old 08-01-2006, 09:37 AM
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Noticed that too....also noticed that Lawyer Ron wokred 5F today at CD too....Discreet Cat will probably run at the end of the Spa meet in an allowance race and then go onto BEL for the Jerome.....I think they want to point for the Discovery at AQU after that and then maybe the Clark at CD against older horses to close out the year.....from there, it would be obvious to guess that they would ship him back over seas to prepare a 4YO campiagn that would include a start in the Dubai World Cup - amybe against stabelmate Bernardini....

Of course, he has to hold up that long....LOL
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Old 08-01-2006, 01:46 PM
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Noticed that too....also noticed that Lawyer Ron wokred 5F today at CD too....Discreet Cat will probably run at the end of the Spa meet in an allowance race and then go onto BEL for the Jerome.....I think they want to point for the Discovery at AQU after that and then maybe the Clark at CD against older horses to close out the year.....from there, it would be obvious to guess that they would ship him back over seas to prepare a 4YO campiagn that would include a start in the Dubai World Cup - amybe against stabelmate Bernardini....

Of course, he has to hold up that long....LOL
Wow you just named 5 future races for Discreet Cat! Don't you know that it would take this horse about 3-4 years to run in that many races!! LOL
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Old 08-01-2006, 01:50 PM
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Wow you just named 5 future races for Discreet Cat! Don't you know that it would take this horse about 3-4 years to run in that many races!! LOL
Thats what I was thinking as well. He ought to have 5 races under his belt by 2009.
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Old 08-01-2006, 01:51 PM
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Are we talking about Ghostzapper or Discreet Cat?
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Old 08-01-2006, 02:00 PM
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Are we talking about Ghostzapper or Discreet Cat?
Your lame attempts to poke fun at Ghostzapper are kinda dumb. The horse raced at 2,3,4, and 5. The fact that he had holes in there doesnt change the fact that he won impressively at all ages. He also won grade one's in three seasons. Find me many horses in recent years who did THAT. Good luck in your quest.
He won such races as the Vosburgh, Woodward, Met Mile, and Breeders Cup Classic. Those are grade one wins at 4 different distances. His sheet numbers were insane, the kind you just don't ever see. The fact that he had issues yet was able to race over that amount of time was a testament to his trainer's skill in handling him and his heart and desire to run fast and win. He also won at Santa Anita, Lone Star, Saratoga, Belmont, and Monmouth. He didn't need to take his track with him. Really, he had nothing to prove when he retired, he had proven everything he ever needed to prove.
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Old 08-01-2006, 02:11 PM
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Your lame attempts to poke fun at Ghostzapper are kinda dumb. The horse raced at 2,3,4, and 5. The fact that he had holes in there doesnt change the fact that he won impressively at all ages. He also won grade one's in three seasons. Find me many horses in recent years who did THAT. Good luck in your quest.
He won such races as the Vosburgh, Woodward, Met Mile, and Breeders Cup Classic. Those are grade one wins at 4 different distances. His sheet numbers were insane, the kind you just don't ever see. The fact that he had issues yet was able to race over that amount of time was a testament to his trainer's skill in handling him and his heart and desire to run fast and win. He also won at Santa Anita, Lone Star, Saratoga, Belmont, and Monmouth. He didn't need to take his track with him. Really, he had nothing to prove when he retired, he had proven everything he ever needed to prove.
No, at this point in time in his career at age 3 Ghostzapper had done nothing compared to Discreet Cat. Discreet Cat is 3-3 and completely destroyed the #2 rated older horse in america. Ghostzapper didn't even win the Kings Bishop at this time in his career. He finished third.

Ghostzapper raced

2x in 2002
4x in 2003
4x in 2004
1x in 2005

That is a complete joke. That is an average of 2.75 starts a year. 2.75 starts! The triple crown horses run more times than that in a 5 week period. You can't be a great horse with his record. That is ridiculous to classify him as great.

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Old 08-01-2006, 02:20 PM
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No, at this point in time in his career at age 3 Ghostzapper had done nothing compared to Discreet Cat. Discreet Cat is 3-3 and completely destroyed the #2 rated older horse in america. Ghostzapper didn't even win the Kings Bishop at this time in his career. He finished third.

Ghostzapper raced

2x in 2002
4x in 2003
4x in 2004
1x in 2005

That is a complete joke. That is an average of 2.75 starts a year. 2.75 starts! The triple crown horses run more times than that in a 5 week period. You can't be a great horse with his record. That is ridiculous to classify him as great.
I dont know if you could define GREAT in Ghostzapper's case by the number of races he raced in. I think going by the quality of wins is a better indicator. Not to mention, he was winning all these races all layoffs which is even more impressive to me. I think I would say that Zapper was a great horse based on what he won and who he beat and his sheet numbers.
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Old 08-01-2006, 02:18 PM
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Your lame attempts to poke fun at Ghostzapper are kinda dumb. The horse raced at 2,3,4, and 5. The fact that he had holes in there doesnt change the fact that he won impressively at all ages. He also won grade one's in three seasons. Find me many horses in recent years who did THAT. Good luck in your quest.
He won such races as the Vosburgh, Woodward, Met Mile, and Breeders Cup Classic. Those are grade one wins at 4 different distances. His sheet numbers were insane, the kind you just don't ever see. The fact that he had issues yet was able to race over that amount of time was a testament to his trainer's skill in handling him and his heart and desire to run fast and win. He also won at Santa Anita, Lone Star, Saratoga, Belmont, and Monmouth. He didn't need to take his track with him. Really, he had nothing to prove when he retired, he had proven everything he ever needed to prove.
Just to answer a question.

Cigar won Grade I's at 4-5-6
Silver Charm won Grade I's at 3-4-5


Those two are the only ones that come to mind.
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Old 08-01-2006, 02:20 PM
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Just to answer a question.

Cigar won Grade I's at 4-5-6
Silver Charm won Grade I's at 3-4-5


Those two are the only ones that come to mind.
Cigar won more races in a row than Ghostzapper raced in over a 4yr career. A lot more.
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Old 08-01-2006, 02:27 PM
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Just to answer a question.

Cigar won Grade I's at 4-5-6
Silver Charm won Grade I's at 3-4-5


Those two are the only ones that come to mind.
John Henry.

At 2:
WON Lafayette Futurity
At 3:
WON Round Table H. -G3, Chocolatetown H.; 2ND Lexington H. -G2, Hill Prince H.; 3RD Volante H. -G3, Lamplighter H. -G3
At 4:
WON Henry P. Russell H.; 2ND Bay Meadows H., Carleton F. Burke H. -G2, Sword Dancer S., Sunrise H.
At 5:
WON Hollywood Inv. H. -G1, San Juan Capistrano Inv. H. -G1, Oak Tree Inv. H. -G1, San Luis Rey S. -G1, Hialeah Turf Cup H. -G2, Brighton Beach H. -G3, San Marcos H. -G3, San Gabriel H. -G3; 2ND Jockey Club Gold Cup -G1, Sword Dancer S., Bowling Green H. -G2; 3RD Turf Classic Inv. H. -G1
At 6:
WON Arlington Million Inv., Jockey Club Gold Cup S. -G1, Santa Anita H. -G1, Oak Tree Inv. S. -G1, Hollywood Inv. H. -G1, Sword Dancer S. -G3, San Luis Rey S. -G1, San Luis Obispo H. -G2
At 7:
WON Santa Anita H. -G1 (500,000), Oak Tree Inv. H. -G1; 3RD Meadowlands Cup H. -G2, San Luis Rey S. -G1
At 8:
WON Hollywood Inv. Turf Cup H. -G1, American H. -G2; 2ND Budweiser Million -G1, Oak Tree Inv. S. -G1
At 9:
WON Budweiser Million S. -G1, Turf Classic S. -G1, Ballantine's Scotch Classic H., Hollywood Inv. H. -G1, Golden Gate H. -G3, Sunset H. -G1; 2ND Hollywood Gold Cup H. -G1; 3RD San Luis Rey S. -G1
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Old 08-01-2006, 04:04 PM
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Just to answer a question.

Cigar won Grade I's at 4-5-6
Silver Charm won Grade I's at 3-4-5


Those two are the only ones that come to mind.
Slew, Bid, Affirmed...2,3, and 4
John Henry....5, 6, 7, 8, 9
Forego...4, 5, 6, 7
Silverbulletday...2, 3, 4

I think I could go on and on.
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