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Old 08-01-2006, 09:32 AM
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Joel, why is PTT out for the year? Was it his trip to DBX that sent him to the sidelines?
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Old 08-01-2006, 09:39 AM
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Joel, why is PTT out for the year? Was it his trip to DBX that sent him to the sidelines?
I think I read where he had surgery to remove a chip from a knee that originated from a workout about 1-2 months ago, but don't quote me on that....anyone else know for sure?

I do know he is out for the year, though....
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Old 08-01-2006, 09:41 AM
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I think I read where he had surgery to remove a chip from a knee that originated from a workout about 1-2 months ago, but don't quote me on that....anyone else know for sure?

I do know he is out for the year, though....
Chip in the ankle. Nothing major but he is done for the year.
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Old 08-01-2006, 09:42 AM
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Chip in the ankle. Nothing major but he is done for the year.
Thanks for clearing that up...i knew it was a chip but couldn't find the story
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Old 08-01-2006, 10:05 AM
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the Dandy was a G2 event
some average horses have won this race
he did win the G1 Preakness
but that should have a big * by it
so who's he beaten?
with one other G3 win besides a maiden W
and the times were average
from a predigree stand-point, it just doesn't get any better
but I would like to see him really challenged
which you have to think will happen soon
bald people can't train, btw
you look at Baffert, Pletcher, even an older Lukas
all have full heads of hair
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Old 08-01-2006, 10:09 AM
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the Dandy was a G2 event
some average horses have won this race
he did win the G1 Preakness
but that should have a big * by it
so who's he beaten?
with one other G3 win besides a maiden W
and the times were average
from a predigree stand-point, it just doesn't get any better
but I would like to see him really challenged
which you have to think will happen soon
bald people can't train, btw
you look at Baffert, Pletcher, even an older Lukas
all have full heads of hair
Please tell that to Charlie Whittingham.
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Old 08-01-2006, 10:15 AM
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I do not know enough about the trainer to make comment. But what I will comment on, is the fact that horses cannot talk. A trainer is so very important in being able to not only tell the level of fitness of a horse, and putting him in the appropriate races given current ability and fitness, but what kind of training will best suit the individual horse to get him to the desired level. If a horse shows vast unexpected improvement, how do we adjust the goals. If a horse shows great early promise and then tops out, how to rethink goals, and having enough respect and guts to tell the owners what you believe to be the truth about their million dollar investment that will no longer be able to take on the top level like once thought.

Think about humans in the top level of track. They all have trainers. And the top runners can tell the trainers when they are sore, what hurts, And they just dont feel good today, something aint right, im slipping badly on this surface, I need a friggin drink. Horses cannot talk.

This takes extraordinary people. The level of competition in the top tier is way too tough and fluid. Very talented horses pop out of nowhere. Good horses dont improve or dont want to run. I could screw up Bernardini. So could everyone else on this board.

I again think this is a case of the sage complex we have witnessed so often: taking an extraordinarily bred animal (which in itself is horribly inexact) that looks great moving and has a few extrordinary races, and proclaiming him the next great. Happens all the time and it is fun to write about.
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Old 08-01-2006, 10:33 AM
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Now don't get me wrong. Bernardini is a good horse, but I have my reservations about him. Yes, he looked very impressive in his last two races, BUT didn't Sin Min look impressive in his Keenland romp? Didn't Bellamy Road look impressive in his romp as a three year old? There are more. AA looked impressive in a lot of races but you all are saying Bernardini is better than him too.

I guess that is why I am hesitant to get on this horse's bandwagon. Nothing to do with his trainer, owners, etc... Just want to see him go up against better competition before I title him "HOY" or even "Great".
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Old 08-01-2006, 10:49 AM
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Oracle,

I think you are a pretty sharp guy who sometimes posts some really dumb things. Name calling is not going to get your money back on the bet. Betting horses is tough becasue no matter what they can lose. I am not defending Albertrani at all, but the alternative is to not have trainers give any comment to DRF.

People are wrong all the time, even the great trainers. Pletcher sent out Oonagh Maccool who was short. Or was she? Sometimes horses get a little bug that doesn't show up until after the race. Have you ever heard "She came out of the race with a little fever."? It happens.

I feel like you know enough about the game to know better than to call people names because you lost money. Please continue to provide valuable insight on this forum, but stop posting things you will later regret having said.
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