mike smiths best ride ever

KirisClown · #1 02-23-2008, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

Mike Smith is a terrible rider, I never understood why he was ever considered an A list Jock. Probably a testament to great horses as in Lure or Holy Bull that they were able to win inspite of him. If ever there was a walkover race and all the horse had to do was jog around the track, he would still probably race the poor horse in the 5 path all the way around.

Smith is a complete incompetent... yet for years, McGaughey, Mott, Jerkens, etc. continued to use him on some of their best horses.. makes sense..

You don't ride as many good horses as Smith has, or win as many stakes as Smith has, or win back-to-back eclipse awards etc.. if you're a terrible rider..

blackthroatedwind · #2 02-23-2008, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown

Smith is a complete incompetent... yet for years, McGaughey, Mott, Jerkens, etc. continued to use him on some of their best horses.. makes sense..

You don't ride as many good horses as Smith has, or win as many stakes as Smith has, or win back-to-back eclipse awards etc.. if you're a terrible rider..

Do you really think you want to include Jerkens?

He probably only used Smith when Noel Wynter was unavailable.

KirisClown · #3 02-23-2008, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Do you really think you want to include Jerkens?

He probably only used Smith when Noel Wynter was unavailable.

I actually took Jerekns out then added him again.. I sort of knew id be called on it...

But, Smith did ride Sky Beauty, Devil His Due and a few others for him...

blackthroatedwind · #4 02-23-2008, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown

I actually took Jerekns out then added him again.. I sort of knew id be called on it...

But, Smith did ride Sky Beauty, Devil His Due and a few others for him...

Noel probably turned down the mounts.

KirisClown · #5 02-23-2008, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Noel probably turned down the mounts.

Is he still around? I remember Jerkens using him on a lot of the Hobeau horses..

pmayjr · #6 02-23-2008, 04:47 AM

y'all are always so harsh on Smith... setting myself up for a lot of smart ass'd answers, did Smith have a certain incident that caused this hatred, or was there a series of events that led to this? He still seems to hold his own win % wise. I don't really have any good or bad feelings about him, but just wondering where all the ripping comes from.

CSC · #7 02-23-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr

y'all are always so harsh on Smith... setting myself up for a lot of smart ass'd answers, did Smith have a certain incident that caused this hatred, or was there a series of events that led to this? He still seems to hold his own win % wise. I don't really have any good or bad feelings about him, but just wondering where all the ripping comes from.

Honestly, I have no grudge with Smith. I just came to the conclusion that he is an awful rider from years of watching him ride. Especially for a jockey of his stature.

Win% can be deceptive, look I remember Chantel Sutherland was actually one of the leading riders up at Woodbine one year and I think no one here would say she is any great shakes.

KirisClown · #8 02-23-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I think he rode a horse a few weeks ago at Aqueduct.

If he did, it just shows how close ive been paying attention to Aqueduct this winter...

blackthroatedwind · #9 02-23-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown

If he did, it just shows how close ive been paying attention to Aqueduct this winter...

Frankly, your posts in this thread show how much you have paid attention to NY over the last 20 years.

CSC · #10 02-23-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown

Smith is a complete incompetent... yet for years, McGaughey, Mott, Jerkens, etc. continued to use him on some of their best horses.. makes sense..

You don't ride as many good horses as Smith has, or win as many stakes as Smith has, or win back-to-back eclipse awards etc.. if you're a terrible rider..

Wasn't he also criticized for jumping off Prairie Bayou too soon in the Belmont after he broke down, as opposed to staying on him and trying to prevent him from hurting himself even more.