Israel suspending air bombing

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by boldruler

I am all for supporting Israel, just not with my money. Do they not have their own money? Please explain to me what the US gets out of supporting Israel. And for the record, we don't support Israel because we are good people, we support them because their lobby, the lobby of a foreign country, has bought into our government, no different than tobacco, alcohol, guns lobby, etc.

well how else do you support a country than with money???
where's your outrage for all the other countries we send money to? did you know that til 9/11 afghanistan was our #1 recipient of u.s. aid? fat lot of good that did us, huh? what about most favored nation trading status granted to china? does that burn your butt? or is it just israel that ticks you off? what about funding public schools? you don't have kids do you? what about interstates? do you drive on them all? i mean, why does hawaii have an interstate? what a waste of my money...

Originally Posted by Danzig188

well how else do you support a country than with money???
where's your outrage for all the other countries we send money to? did you know that til 9/11 afghanistan was our #1 recipient of u.s. aid? fat lot of good that did us, huh? what about most favored nation trading status granted to china? does that burn your butt? or is it just israel that ticks you off? what about funding public schools? you don't have kids do you? what about interstates? do you drive on them all? i mean, why does hawaii have an interstate? what a waste of my money...

You support them in things like the UN, which we already do. I don't need to give them my tax dollar to support them.

I have tremendous outrage when it comes to the US giving money to any country unless it is humanitarian. I have much more dislike of Mexico and China than I do Israel. Mexico and China actually cost americans jobs and Israel just sucks up my tax dollar.

As for public schools, they are underfunded because I am sending billions that should be going to public schools to countries like Israel, who should raise their own taxes, not take my money. As for your other comments, I don't like money being wasted at all, but I rather have it wasted on my country than another country like Israel or Egypt.

Here we go again with the money.

The Space Shuttle is an incredible waste of money... trying to keep humans alive instead of sending more probes out in which we could learn a whole lot more. The list goes on and on. We have throughout our history supplied money to foreign countries for many reasons. The money given to these countries is a drop in the bucket compared to health care and military expenditures. Do you think all of that money is used efficiently?

Originally Posted by pgardn

Here we go again with the money.

The Space Shuttle is an incredible waste of money... trying to keep humans alive instead of sending more probes out in which we could learn a whole lot more. The list goes on and on. We have throughout our history supplied money to foreign countries for many reasons. The money given to these countries is a drop in the bucket compared to health care and military expenditures. Do you think all of that money is used efficiently?

No, but it is Americans and American tax dollars being wasted on these silly little countries is a joke. It is not America's job to buy a military for ever silly little country on earth.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by boldruler

No, but it is Americans and American tax dollars being wasted on these silly little countries is a joke. It is not America's job to buy a military for ever silly little country on earth.

Bold Ruler,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time I looked, the US was the leading supplier of armaments to other countries...purchased on credit.
For the US to redirect those lines of production and discontinue supply would cause serious dislocation to manufacturers in the US.
In other words, the US has built great dependency on making and selling arms.
The impact for transitioning from that paradigm would have serious outcomes for our economy.

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Bold Ruler,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time I looked, the US was the leading supplier of armaments to other countries...purchased on credit.
For the US to redirect those lines of production and discontinue supply would cause serious dislocation to manufacturers in the US.
In other words, the US has built great dependency on making and selling arms.
The impact for transitioning from that paradigm would have serious outcomes for our economy.

Great. Move the money into another sector. The defense contractors already make too much anyway. It is the most ridiculous pork in the entire budget. It is only a matter of time before all these jobs are shipped overseas anyway. It is already beginning to happen.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Great. Move the money into another sector. The defense contractors already make too much anyway. It is the most ridiculous pork in the entire budget. It is only a matter of time before all these jobs are shipped overseas anyway. It is already beginning to happen.

Unfortunately, China is supplying silk worms and other very potent arms.
Russia continues to supply katusha rockets and most of the small arms (ak-47's and modifications).
I hope it was that easy for defense contractors to switch to other sources of market share.
That would indeed make sense, but I think the "pork" demanded by state representatives will continue. The transition simply will cost too much, especially if a growing market exists.