Majestic Warrior

[freddymo]

I knew you would just love the "Billy"!

How do you know he is a closing sprinter? Let's hope your wrong.. I am sure Billy will give it his best shot..

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I knew you would just love the "Billy"!

How do you know he is a closing sprinter? Let's hope your wrong.. I am sure Billy will give it his best shot..

I don't know he's a closing sprinter, obviously, but considering his running style emulates his dam almost to a T, it will hardly be surprising.

[freddymo]

I wouldn't be surprised he was and I wouldn't be surprised if he won the Belmont. He is an Indy...If one can make a case for WP getting 10f's not so hard to think MW gets 10 or 12 as well.

I really thought this horse was pretty good and a successful 2 year old by Indy isn't the most common occurance. Maybe he is like you say, more like mom?

[SniperSB23]

I thought Circular Quay had absolutely no chance in the Derby last year but not only do I think Majestic Warrior is more likely to be a closing sprinter than CQ but CQ was also FAR more accomplised at this point. I don't really get the buzz around this horse. Plodding past a spent Mayonnaise and Ready's Image after they tried to duel for seven furlongs wasn't anything to get excited about.

[freddymo]

I think the connections and the pedigree lend themself to overreaction, dont you? I am one who swallowed the bait.
Something to be said for a 2 year old grade 1 Indy winner regardless of the race shape.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I thought Circular Quay had absolutely no chance in the Derby last year but not only do I think Majestic Warrior is more likely to be a closing sprinter than CQ but CQ was also FAR more accomplised at this point. I don't really get the buzz around this horse. Plodding past a spent Mayonnaise and Ready's Image after they tried to duel for seven furlongs wasn't anything to get excited about.

Then why on earth are you excited about the cheaper version (Denis of Cork) of him?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Then why on earth are you excited about the cheaper version (Denis of Cork) of him?

He's already won around two turns and already won in a race where the pace scenario played completely against him. You have to be a closer to win in those circumstances, not a plodder like Majestic Warrior. Barring an unforeseen infusion of speed horses into the Derby picture this year there is no chance of enough of a pace meltdown for a plodder to crack the superfecta even if that plodder turns out to like 10 furlongs which is a big question mark.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

He's already won around two turns and already won in a race where the pace scenario played completely against him. You have to be a closer to win in those circumstances, not a plodder like Majestic Warrior. Barring an unforeseen infusion of speed horses into the Derby picture this year there is no chance of enough of a pace meltdown for a plodder to crack the superfecta even if that plodder turns out to like 10 furlongs which is a big question mark.

So he went an extra turn and panel in the Southwest and caught horses that went ridiculously fast on the front and he's not a plodder?

He beat the great Unbridled Vicar at Fair Grounds but he showed heart...BEATING UNBRIDLED VICAR BY A NOSE????!?!?!

Denis of Cork has absolutely no shot in the Derby. I hope he's the the favorite.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

He's already won around two turns and already won in a race where the pace scenario played completely against him. You have to be a closer to win in those circumstances, not a plodder like Majestic Warrior. Barring an unforeseen infusion of speed horses into the Derby picture this year there is no chance of enough of a pace meltdown for a plodder to crack the superfecta even if that plodder turns out to like 10 furlongs which is a big question mark.

The colt has had a total of 3 starts with 1 of them health compromised. You are drawing a lot of conclusions from so little data. His second dam was a fairly acomplished router and he sure does have a great trainer in BILLY(for you BBB)..
I worry more about him not having a couple more races in him then if he plods or if he develops a little more turn of foot. He is 6 months older lets see what 08 brings before we label him Saarland 2 the sequel

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I knew you would just love the "Billy"!

How do you know he is a closing sprinter? Let's hope your wrong.. I am sure Billy will give it his best shot..

Only Mott's mother and BBB may call him Billy.