Castellano is one lucky rider

[Danzig]

was that a stranglehold on saturday? look, he won easy...but still.

and no way of knowing how he'll fare against older. all this talk about the bBd, and even HE lost against older. c'mon guys. many say medaglia d'oro was special, the best of his crop, and he couldn't even beat volponi. flower alley, invasor and lava man are no volponi!!!!
let's give the unearned hyperbole a rest already. two good races. TWO. that's not hall of fame material.
now, let him win the travers and the bcc. then i'll be a believer, because like they say seeing is believing. conjecture isn't.



'he is here'


oh lord.

Castellano isn't as lucky as Albertrani is to have that horse. His training job with Songster today was absolutely shameful.

[dalakhani]

Better than the Zapper?

I respectfully disagree. Bernarndini hasnt beaten older horses. Bernaradini doesnt look to be versatile enough to win grade 1 open company races at 6-10 furlongs.

Someone said Zapper did all his impressive running as an older horse. Did this person forget the vosburgh when he was three? That was arguably Zapper's most scintillating performance.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Better than the Zapper?

I respectfully disagree. Bernarndini hasnt beaten older horses. Bernaradini doesnt look to be versatile enough to win grade 1 open company races at 6-10 furlongs.

Someone said Zapper did all his impressive running as an older horse. Did this person forget the vosburgh when he was three? That was arguably Zapper's most scintillating performance.

Shoot, saying he is better than Ghostzapper is apparently an understatement around these parts.

We are talking about the BEST HORSE IN 40 YEARS!!! PURE M.F. ING BRILLIANCE

[Scav]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Better than the Zapper?

I respectfully disagree. Bernarndini hasnt beaten older horses. Bernaradini doesnt look to be versatile enough to win grade 1 open company races at 6-10 furlongs.

Someone said Zapper did all his impressive running as an older horse. Did this person forget the vosburgh when he was three? That was arguably Zapper's most scintillating performance.

Matter of fact, I am going to watch that again...Thanks for reminding me how awesome was

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Scav

Matter of fact, I am going to watch that again...Thanks for reminding me how awesome was

unreal....nyra.com is down right now...

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

How is he not versatile enough? He won on the lead last race, and won the Withers and Preakness stalking and pouncing. Zapper's Vosburgh was something special, but I still like his Met Mile as a 5 year old. That was an awesome performance.

He was in the lead on a slow pace in this overmatched field.

You are saying that bernardini could win a grade 1 open company race at 6 furlongs?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

No I personally don't think he could, and I'm not comparing him to Ghostzapper, because YOU CAN'T. But don't act like Bernardini is a one dimensional horse.

who said anything about him being "one dimensional"????? where did i ever say that?

I merely stated that he wasnt as versatile as GZ. Thats all.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I apologize, I misread what you wrote.

No sweat. So what do you think? Do you think Bernarndini will be better than any other horse that has run in the new millenium?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

To be honest I don't know. I think obviously the potential is there, and I would imagine he will be just as good next year, if he runs next year. Just off the top of my head, so everyone don't go crazy, if you line up Ghostzapper, Medaglio D'Oro, Point Given, Barbaro, Tiznow, Giant's Causeway, Bernardini, and Saint Liam, I'd take Ghostzapper.

of course you would- so would i!

but what about Tiznow, mineshaft, dubai millenium or kalinisi? surely they would be in the gate as well.

[Gauchos0522]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

To be honest I don't know. I think obviously the potential is there, and I would imagine he will be just as good next year, if he runs next year. Just off the top of my head, so everyone don't go crazy, if you line up Ghostzapper, Medaglio D'Oro, Point Given, Barbaro, Tiznow, Giant's Causeway, Bernardini, and Saint Liam, I'd take Ghostzapper.

I agree completly. Any sheets player knows he was crazy fast and anyone who buys into the beyer numbers does also. Saying now that Bernardini is better or will be better than Ghostzapper is absolutely foolish. Comparing a horse who won the BCC in convincing fasion on the front end and ran a sub 1:34 mile off a six month layoff not even mentioning his unreal vosburgh or that out of the clouds move in the kings bishop to a three year old who has never competed against older horses is insane.