Mario o' Mario, please go back to Maryland o' Mario!

[blackthroatedwind]

Unlike the rest of us, Phil's time is very valuable, and he believes message board topics need to be far more selective. Unless, of course, they are about the most overrated horse of all time.....Smarty Jones.

[The Bid]

The worst thing Pino did was getting him so far back early. The horse made up a lot of ground from the 3/16ths to the finish. I think he would have ran second if Pino let the horse do what he wanted instead of trying to split the top two late. That being said if he kept him a little closer early he wouldnt have needed to worry about splitting or going outside because he was the best horse in the field. My opinion is it was a brutal ride, but I had money on Laysh Laysh Laysh.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

You can't say that. I guess you can because you just did, but he was under a hold for the last 8 jumps and made up some serious ground on them to that point. If he's swung out wide with clear sailing it could go either way.

And besides costing me the Pick 4, I'll never get that vision of Pino's horrendous Preakness ride on Hard Spun out of my head.

Trust me, I know the feeling. However, I didn't bet the race, and I'm pretty steadfast that he wasn't going to win if he had come outside because, as Bid said, he had too much to do- even with the outside being more than OK yesterday. The speed duel that Pino (and the rest of us) had likely anticipated never really materialized. I lost out on the Pick 6 at Bay Meadows yesterday in what was a carbon copy of this race- the supposed other speed in the feature took back and let the phony speed loose (who then quit), but the other speed inherited the lead and held off my two selections who had taken back.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Unlike the rest of us, Phil's time is very valuable, and he believes message board topics need to be far more selective. Unless, of course, they are about the most overrated horse of all time.....Smarty Jones.

You forgot topics about Lindsay Lohan posing naked!

You know me too well, brother.

[Mortimer]

^^^Giacomo' number one fan.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Meridian_Artisan

^^^Giacomo' number one fan.

Me? No way. Only Derby I ever attended and felt like I paid to see a Paris Hilton movie.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by philcski

Me? No way. Only Derby I ever attended and felt like I paid to see a Paris Hilton movie.

Very insulting to Paris Hilton fans.




Both of them.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Meridian_Artisan

Very insulting to Paris Hilton fans.




Both of them.

Who's the other member of your exclusive club? Does he happen to go by the alias of "Blackthroatedwind"?

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by philcski

Who's the other member of your exclusive club? Does he happen to go by the alias of "Blackthroatedwind"?

You won't get that out of me.



But you might out of Steve.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by philcski

The speed duel that Pino (and the rest of us) had likely anticipated never really materialized.

Yeah, that's twice in a row that Go Go Shoot has gotten the jump on Accredit. Must be a conspiracy of some sort.

Hard to clearly tell on the web replay but it appears that Go Go Shoot is on lefty lead on the BS. (He's a short and low strider.)
And it took him till very late stretch to change to righty lead. Which means that he might've gone almost the entire race lefty. Which makes his performance all the more impressive.

Then again, if Pino gets through ......

[MaTH716]

Mario gets stuck on the rail again in the 3rd. Looks like he had some horse, should of definatley hit the board.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Mario gets stuck on the rail again in the 3rd. Looks like he had some horse, should of definatley hit the board.

I thought I was watching a replay of the other race. Should have hit the board is putting it mildly. Gold and Blue Box is driving me nuts (and to the poorhouse).

[Travis Stone]

It was an absolutely horrendous ride.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

It was an absolutely horrendous ride.

Here's the problem, at least as I see it.....Pino was told when he came here to stick to the inside if possible, as clearly that has been the correct approach for most of the inner meet. So, he is trying to do the right thing, but what he is really doing is overthinking it, and not really race riding. He did everything right on this horse until the stretch.....he rode patiently, got outside the jammed inside horse on the turn without needlessly losing ground, and then he got himself in a jackpot and decided to head inside. However, his other option was to steady and alter course around Boggy Creek Dancer. While in retrospect I guess that would have been a better move he might have been heroic had his actual decision worked out.

Now, in watching this race a few times, I honestly believe the horse didn't have that much anyway, but that's somewhat subjective. Now, maybe his recent bad trips have been a succession of unlucky breaks, or maybe he's just one of those horses that always ends up looking like he had trouble. However, horseplayers go broke following good money after bad with horses like this. Look at it this way, if he had somehow gotten clear today, and even won, he would have accomplished it with a perfect trip.....and we would be looking to bet against him next time. Instead, he will be on everyone's ( well, not mine ) " horses to bet back " list, and will be way overbet.

I'm no great fan of Pino......but I'm also no fan of this horse.