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Old 02-19-2008, 12:31 PM
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What are we debating this for? Horse wasn't winning anyways, he had too much to do. It cost him 2nd, at best.
You can't say that. I guess you can because you just did, but he was under a hold for the last 8 jumps and made up some serious ground on them to that point. If he's swung out wide with clear sailing it could go either way.

And besides costing me the Pick 4, I'll never get that vision of Pino's horrendous Preakness ride on Hard Spun out of my head.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:37 PM
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Unlike the rest of us, Phil's time is very valuable, and he believes message board topics need to be far more selective. Unless, of course, they are about the most overrated horse of all time.....Smarty Jones.
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Old 02-19-2008, 01:00 PM
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The worst thing Pino did was getting him so far back early. The horse made up a lot of ground from the 3/16ths to the finish. I think he would have ran second if Pino let the horse do what he wanted instead of trying to split the top two late. That being said if he kept him a little closer early he wouldnt have needed to worry about splitting or going outside because he was the best horse in the field. My opinion is it was a brutal ride, but I had money on Laysh Laysh Laysh.
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Old 02-19-2008, 01:15 PM
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You can't say that. I guess you can because you just did, but he was under a hold for the last 8 jumps and made up some serious ground on them to that point. If he's swung out wide with clear sailing it could go either way.

And besides costing me the Pick 4, I'll never get that vision of Pino's horrendous Preakness ride on Hard Spun out of my head.
Trust me, I know the feeling. However, I didn't bet the race, and I'm pretty steadfast that he wasn't going to win if he had come outside because, as Bid said, he had too much to do- even with the outside being more than OK yesterday. The speed duel that Pino (and the rest of us) had likely anticipated never really materialized. I lost out on the Pick 6 at Bay Meadows yesterday in what was a carbon copy of this race- the supposed other speed in the feature took back and let the phony speed loose (who then quit), but the other speed inherited the lead and held off my two selections who had taken back.

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Unlike the rest of us, Phil's time is very valuable, and he believes message board topics need to be far more selective. Unless, of course, they are about the most overrated horse of all time.....Smarty Jones.
You forgot topics about Lindsay Lohan posing naked!

You know me too well, brother.
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Old 02-19-2008, 01:20 PM
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^^^Giacomo' number one fan.
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Old 02-19-2008, 01:28 PM
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^^^Giacomo' number one fan.
Me? No way. Only Derby I ever attended and felt like I paid to see a Paris Hilton movie.
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Old 02-19-2008, 01:29 PM
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Me? No way. Only Derby I ever attended and felt like I paid to see a Paris Hilton movie.

Very insulting to Paris Hilton fans.




Both of them.
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Old 02-19-2008, 01:33 PM
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Very insulting to Paris Hilton fans.




Both of them.
Who's the other member of your exclusive club? Does he happen to go by the alias of "Blackthroatedwind"?
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:06 PM
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The speed duel that Pino (and the rest of us) had likely anticipated never really materialized.
Yeah, that's twice in a row that Go Go Shoot has gotten the jump on Accredit. Must be a conspiracy of some sort.

Hard to clearly tell on the web replay but it appears that Go Go Shoot is on lefty lead on the BS. (He's a short and low strider.)
And it took him till very late stretch to change to righty lead. Which means that he might've gone almost the entire race lefty. Which makes his performance all the more impressive.

Then again, if Pino gets through ......
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Old 02-23-2008, 01:31 PM
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Mario gets stuck on the rail again in the 3rd. Looks like he had some horse, should of definatley hit the board.
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Old 02-23-2008, 08:10 PM
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Mario gets stuck on the rail again in the 3rd. Looks like he had some horse, should of definatley hit the board.
I thought I was watching a replay of the other race. Should have hit the board is putting it mildly. Gold and Blue Box is driving me nuts (and to the poorhouse).
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Old 02-23-2008, 09:12 PM
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It was an absolutely horrendous ride.
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