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blackthroatedwind · #1 02-19-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62

But there was nowhere to go , it seemed to me that he had to check late in order to avoid running up the back of the other 2. Don't you think that he should have moved to the 3 path late ?

And how exactly was he supposed to do that?

jms62 · #2 02-19-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

And how exactly was he supposed to do that?

I'd have to watch again but I thought he had the opportunity inside the final furlong. Of course being 5'11 and 205 my jock skills are limited.. At best...

blackthroatedwind · #3 02-19-2008, 10:41 AM

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I'd have to watch again but I thought he had the opportunity inside the final furlong. Of course being 5'11 and 205 my jock skills are limited.. At best...

No, I can see that. He did seem to overcommit a bit. He may have blown this one a bit, at least in isolation, though I'm not sure his plan didn't get him there. Maybe part smart and part dumb.

NoLuvForPletch · #4 02-19-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

And how exactly was he supposed to do that?

Andy, watch the race again. He is clear of Law N Dora about 5 jumps outside of the 1/16 pole and starts off the rail but for some reason doesn't get him out. Laysh Laysh Laysh is under wraps for the last 8 jumps.

NoLuvForPletch · #5 02-19-2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Andy, watch the race again. He is clear of Law N Dora about 5 jumps outside of the 1/16 pole and starts off the rail but for some reason doesn't get him out. Laysh Laysh Laysh is under wraps for the last 8 jumps.

Sorry Andy, we posted simultaneously.

blackthroatedwind · #6 02-19-2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Andy, watch the race again. He is clear of Law N Dora about 5 jumps outside of the 1/16 pole and starts off the rail but for some reason doesn't get him out. Laysh Laysh Laysh is under wraps for the last 8 jumps.

I did. I can see that. He was probably wrong assuming this would not have cost him a loss of momentum.

I did read, however, a hilarious comment on Steve Crist's blog from someone who thought there should have been an inquiry in the race against the second finisher for fouling Laysh. Now, that makes a lot of sense.

philcski · #7 02-19-2008, 10:55 AM

What are we debating this for? Horse wasn't winning anyways, he had too much to do. It cost him 2nd, at best.

NoLuvForPletch · #8 02-19-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski

What are we debating this for? Horse wasn't winning anyways, he had too much to do. It cost him 2nd, at best.

You can't say that. I guess you can because you just did, but he was under a hold for the last 8 jumps and made up some serious ground on them to that point. If he's swung out wide with clear sailing it could go either way.

And besides costing me the Pick 4, I'll never get that vision of Pino's horrendous Preakness ride on Hard Spun out of my head.

blackthroatedwind · #9 02-19-2008, 11:37 AM

Unlike the rest of us, Phil's time is very valuable, and he believes message board topics need to be far more selective. Unless, of course, they are about the most overrated horse of all time.....Smarty Jones.

The Bid · #10 02-19-2008, 12:00 PM

The worst thing Pino did was getting him so far back early. The horse made up a lot of ground from the 3/16ths to the finish. I think he would have ran second if Pino let the horse do what he wanted instead of trying to split the top two late. That being said if he kept him a little closer early he wouldnt have needed to worry about splitting or going outside because he was the best horse in the field. My opinion is it was a brutal ride, but I had money on Laysh Laysh Laysh.

philcski · #11 02-19-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

You can't say that. I guess you can because you just did, but he was under a hold for the last 8 jumps and made up some serious ground on them to that point. If he's swung out wide with clear sailing it could go either way.

And besides costing me the Pick 4, I'll never get that vision of Pino's horrendous Preakness ride on Hard Spun out of my head.

Trust me, I know the feeling. However, I didn't bet the race, and I'm pretty steadfast that he wasn't going to win if he had come outside because, as Bid said, he had too much to do- even with the outside being more than OK yesterday. The speed duel that Pino (and the rest of us) had likely anticipated never really materialized. I lost out on the Pick 6 at Bay Meadows yesterday in what was a carbon copy of this race- the supposed other speed in the feature took back and let the phony speed loose (who then quit), but the other speed inherited the lead and held off my two selections who had taken back.

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Unlike the rest of us, Phil's time is very valuable, and he believes message board topics need to be far more selective. Unless, of course, they are about the most overrated horse of all time.....Smarty Jones.

You forgot topics about Lindsay Lohan posing naked!

You know me too well, brother.

Mortimer · #12 02-19-2008, 12:20 PM

^^^Giacomo' number one fan.

the_fat_man · #13 02-19-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

The speed duel that Pino (and the rest of us) had likely anticipated never really materialized.

Yeah, that's twice in a row that Go Go Shoot has gotten the jump on Accredit. Must be a conspiracy of some sort.

Hard to clearly tell on the web replay but it appears that Go Go Shoot is on lefty lead on the BS. (He's a short and low strider.)
And it took him till very late stretch to change to righty lead. Which means that he might've gone almost the entire race lefty. Which makes his performance all the more impressive.

Then again, if Pino gets through ......