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Old 07-31-2006, 01:11 PM
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Showing Up isn't losing to anyone. Not the way he is right now. Go Between has an outside shot simply because he is improving, but Ivan Denisovich is not beating anyone at 10F. Showing Up likes the heat too (unlike his stablemate), a lot of the Europeans don't.

You still have to tell me where three grade/group 1's are contested at on the same day. It doesn't happen very often.
Mike would be better qualified to answer this. But if I had to guess at a couple it would

1) Breeders Cup Day
2) Somewhere on the Keeneland meet
3) Derby Day (maybe only 2 but could have 3 if they wanted)
4) Belmont Day (again, same situation as above)
5) Florida Derby Day
6) California has to have a couple also

You have to realize also that Arlington has ONE DAY a year, where the other tracks space out their Grade 1's to get a constant flow of customers.

If Arlington were to run those races on different days, it wouldn't have the same effect as it does

I would take a meet like Gulfstream, Keeneland, or Saratoga has over Arlington's 1 day anytime, anywhere, any place
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Old 07-31-2006, 01:17 PM
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Mike would be better qualified to answer this. But if I had to guess at a couple it would

1) Breeders Cup Day
2) Somewhere on the Keeneland meet
3) Derby Day (maybe only 2 but could have 3 if they wanted)
4) Belmont Day (again, same situation as above)
5) Florida Derby Day
6) California has to have a couple also

You have to realize also that Arlington has ONE DAY a year, where the other tracks space out their Grade 1's to get a constant flow of customers.

If Arlington were to run those races on different days, it wouldn't have the same effect as it does

I would take a meet like Gulfstream, Keeneland, or Saratoga has over Arlington's 1 day anytime, anywhere, any place
Belmont Fall Championships Day:

Usually get some form of the:

Beldame
JCGC
Champagne
Frizette
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Old 07-31-2006, 01:29 PM
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Belmont Fall Championships Day:

Usually get some form of the:

Beldame
JCGC
Champagne
Frizette

Actually, it's:
Beldame (G1)
Flower Bowl (G1)
Joe Hirsch (G1)
Jockey Club (G1)
Vosburgh (G1)


Now that's a card!! It's Oc. 7th this year.
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Old 07-31-2006, 01:37 PM
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Actually, it's:
Beldame (G1)
Flower Bowl (G1)
Joe Hirsch (G1)
Jockey Club (G1)
Vosburgh (G1)


Now that's a card!! It's Oc. 7th this year.

Wow! Now that's a day at the races!

Thanks for the update, I am going to circle it on the Calendar now...
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Old 07-31-2006, 01:39 PM
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Actually, it's:
Beldame (G1)
Flower Bowl (G1)
Joe Hirsch (G1)
Jockey Club (G1)
Vosburgh (G1)


Now that's a card!! It's Oc. 7th this year.
That is BC Preview day. It is arguably the 2nd best day of racing every year. The Arlington Day is still a top 15 day.
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Old 07-31-2006, 01:22 PM
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Mike would be better qualified to answer this. But if I had to guess at a couple it would

1) Breeders Cup Day
2) Somewhere on the Keeneland meet
3) Derby Day (maybe only 2 but could have 3 if they wanted)
4) Belmont Day (again, same situation as above)
5) Florida Derby Day
6) California has to have a couple also

You have to realize also that Arlington has ONE DAY a year, where the other tracks space out their Grade 1's to get a constant flow of customers.

If Arlington were to run those races on different days, it wouldn't have the same effect as it does

I would take a meet like Gulfstream, Keeneland, or Saratoga has over Arlington's 1 day anytime, anywhere, any place
I didn't say Arlington was a good meet, just that million day is one of the top days all year in racing. Three grade 1's in the span of a few hours is unbelievable.

Showing Up has no need to fear any other 3 yr old. The older horses are a problem but Obrien's 3yr old is not. Showing Up seems to even like a soft turf in the morning so fast/yielding, whatever, it doesn't matter. I do wonder how he will fare going 12F against older horses at Belmont, but not 10F against 3yr olds at Arlington.
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