Clemens: BigFATLIar

[Cannon Shell]

McNamee should be indicted for perjury for saying that he never heard of Vitamin b-12. Where did he get his degree? Arizona State?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

McNamee should be indicted for perjury for saying that he never heard of Vitamin b-12. Where did he get his degree? Arizona State?

Got it online(I think.)

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

McNamee should be indicted for perjury for saying that he never heard of Vitamin b-12. Where did he get his degree? Arizona State?

well according to Roger (stated seveal times over) McNamees degree was only a PHD!! The overwhelming majority of PHD's have minimal medical knowledge! I honestly should have employed some of my college professors to inject myself with some B-12 considering they were PHDs and all!!

I dont' know how any of this is perjury when there are no pictures of anything. It is still all he said, he said, she said, he injected etc. Isn't it all really just a multitude of inviduals going through mis-remembering episodes from McNamee, to clemens, to the wife of clemens to Pettite to Burton to Fran Drescher (the nanny) and the congresswoman with the many pictures of Roger on the mound with all his teams each decade??

Barry Bonds may be a jerk, but he has to be laughing his butt off over all this clemens nonsense.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

It wasn't a bricks n' mortar place.Just some correspondence classes.You know what I am saying? I wasn't kid'n .He got the damn thing on-line.Never went to a classroom.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

so your telling me he did NOT KNOW what hgh was..even though his wife had shot it and had a reaction to it.........fn please..

[Danzig]

mcnamee named three names. two of the three corroborate his story, with clemens the lone denier. and one of the other two who was named--friends of clemens, and backs up mcnamees story.
then you have the deal with the nanny. and of course you have the fact that clemens' wife supposedly used hgh. you telling me that rog is going to let his wife use, and then take the high road himself?! he wouldn't/didn't use, but she did for a photo spread?


i don't think this deal is worth congress' time....but it should be worth baseballs time.

Originally Posted by Danzig

mcnamee named three names. two of the three corroborate his story, with clemens the lone denier. and one of the other two who was named--friends of clemens, and backs up mcnamees story.
then you have the deal with the nanny. and of course you have the fact that clemens' wife supposedly used hgh. you telling me that rog is going to let his wife use, and then take the high road himself?! he wouldn't/didn't use, but she did for a photo spread?


i don't think this deal is worth congress' time....but it should be worth baseballs time.

Let us not forget his taped phone conversation.
NOT once, NOT one time, did Roger say:
"Tell the truth. You know you did not inject me with
that stuff, I know you did not inject me with the damn
stuff; why in God's name are you lying like this?"

Roger said none of this.
He is a frkn liar.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

mcnamee named three names. two of the three corroborate his story, with clemens the lone denier. and one of the other two who was named--friends of clemens, and backs up mcnamees story.
then you have the deal with the nanny. and of course you have the fact that clemens' wife supposedly used hgh. you telling me that rog is going to let his wife use, and then take the high road himself?! he wouldn't/didn't use, but she did for a photo spread?


i don't think this deal is worth congress' time....but it should be worth baseballs time.

Honestly what can baseball do to either of these guys anyway? Not to defend these players for lying under oath or in general but why is the govt so concerned about Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds? Shouldnt they be more concern with the people who are illegally suppling the drugs? It is beyond disgraceful that millions of dollars and tremendous amounts of time are being spent to try to destroy a few players reputations. The perjury thing aside, what if Clemens suddenly had just said I took HGH a few times like Pettite did, I'm sorry and I will plead my 5th amendment right for any other questions? Then what? Just like the Congress is looking into the NFL spygate case. What laws were broken there? Where is the harm or danger to the public? Does the result of a football game really matter so much that Congress needs to look into this? More money pissed away because some dried up old Eagles fan is still bitter about the Super Bowl? What can be done anyway? Declare the Eagles the winner on DQ? Makes you wish someone would go to Capital Hill with a gun and fire away on these guys so that maybe they would snap back into the reality of what they are supposed to be doing and stop the grandstanding.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is beyond disgraceful that millions of dollars and tremendous amounts of time are being spent to try to destroy a few players reputations.

No,what's disgraceful is people who are so bankrupt inside that they think any means to an end is acceptable.These are thieves.These were illegal methods used to beat their opponents.Which means they make more money,and the people they beat make less money. You can make it seem tame,but they are criminals.Sorry,but you're simply lacking in ethics,and you've shown these Machiavelian attitudes consistently.Hank Aaron should be the home run king,and Bonds should be in a minimum security prison(like any other cheating white collar criminal.)The reason people cheat like this is because they see people get away with cheating. If congress wants to go after white collar criminals,then it's probably because others in society refuse to enforce the laws these people broke.Simple as that.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Honestly what can baseball do to either of these guys anyway? Not to defend these players for lying under oath or in general but why is the govt so concerned about Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds? Shouldnt they be more concern with the people who are illegally suppling the drugs? It is beyond disgraceful that millions of dollars and tremendous amounts of time are being spent to try to destroy a few players reputations. The perjury thing aside, what if Clemens suddenly had just said I took HGH a few times like Pettite did, I'm sorry and I will plead my 5th amendment right for any other questions? Then what? Just like the Congress is looking into the NFL spygate case. What laws were broken there? Where is the harm or danger to the public? Does the result of a football game really matter so much that Congress needs to look into this? More money pissed away because some dried up old Eagles fan is still bitter about the Super Bowl? What can be done anyway? Declare the Eagles the winner on DQ? Makes you wish someone would go to Capital Hill with a gun and fire away on these guys so that maybe they would snap back into the reality of what they are supposed to be doing and stop the grandstanding.

i don't know what baseball could do. when clemens and others used, were there rules against it? or just generic rules against illegal meds? if the latter is the case, then they broke the rules. i don't know what baseball could do then.
as for congress, like i said above, i don't think it's worth their time. i think it's absolutely ridiculous that they are having these sessions--nothing more than photo ops for the congressmen.
i wrote a sarcastic letter the other day to arlen specter, who is wanting to investigate why the video the pats had was destroyed.
who the hell cares?!