Clemens: BigFATLIar

Originally Posted by MaTH716

All high school students that play sports must take/pass physicals. That is where they could and should be tested.

They take physicals before school begins
in order to be enrolled in athletic "classes".
They could easily roid it up after that.
Plenty of time before football gets into full swing.
Participants will be tested at random times throughout
the year.

Hopefully all this will go away and
the State will not have to waste
taxpayers money on all this in future years.

BTW it was a Republican Governor
that wanted this done.

[Cannon Shell]

Arod uses Viagra

HGH can make women grow chest
and facial hair. Especially younger
women.

This would make older males
avoid Viagra. Except for Clemens.
He liked his wife on HGH.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Arod uses Viagra

Does the HGH give him that side effect?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Does the HGH give him that side effect?

Hey, John Rocker said no way ARod did anything. He is as credible as the trainer guy isnt he?

The funny thing is that HGH has not been proven effective at producing results like steroids have. It is not even hard to get.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Hey, John Rocker said no way ARod did anything. He is as credible as the trainer guy isnt he?

The funny thing is that HGH has not been proven effective at producing results like steroids have. It is not even hard to get.

May not be hard to get,but people need to make sure it can't be found out that you did get it(without a doctor confirming a deficiency.)Anything that is thought to make you look n' feel better is gunna be in demand.They just don't know enough about the effects on the body when you have excess HGH in you.If you take it without having a deficiency,then some think damn near everything starts growing. Could mean your heart enlarges,and for sure the joints will change.There are cancer concerns.I guess we will find out from the results these guys (guinea pigs) get in 15-20 years.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

May not be hard to get,but people need to make sure it can't be found out that you did get it(without a doctor confirming a deficiency.)Anything that is thought to make you look n' feel better is gunna be in demand.They just don't know enough about the effects on the body when you have excess HGH in you.If you take it without having a deficiency,then some think damn near everything starts growing. Could mean your heart enlarges,and for sure the joints will change.There are cancer concerns.I guess we will find out from the results these guys (guinea pigs) get in 15-20 years.

Search thet net for it, you can find about 8,000 places to quickly buy it. Anyone that wants it can just have a good friend get it for them. Going through a trainer who is supplying other people is just dumb cause that is the guy who is going to get busted and have to name names. The effects are still up for debate but it does increase muscle mass which could certainly create a placebo effect. Especially with how mental of a game baseball is.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Search thet net for it, you can find about 8,000 places to quickly buy it. Anyone that wants it can just have a good friend get it for them. Going through a trainer who is supplying other people is just dumb cause that is the guy who is going to get busted and have to name names. The effects are still up for debate but it does increase muscle mass which could certainly create a placebo effect. Especially with how mental of a game baseball is.

http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomi...er-should-you/

[Cannon Shell]

The fact that Congress is having hearing on this is troubling. The fact that this is simply political grandstanding over an issue that has no relevence to the American public at large and was not a crime comitted against anyone seems to have been missed by the media except in rare instances. HGH is readily available and just this morning there was a story on CNN about a Dr. in Beverly Hills who "specializes" in antiaging who admitted on camera on national tv that only about 25 % of his customers have a true medical need for it. If there truly are enforcable laws concerning this drug then they dont seem to be enforced. Despite my own personal enjoyment of the hearings there is only flimsy evidence that Congress should be involved with the internal regulations of a private enterprise. The NFL case concerning "spygate" is even a bigger farce. The fact that the NFL destroyed evidence on a technical matter concerning their own regulations after the guilty parties have been repremanded is NOT the business of Arlen Spector or any other Senator or congressman while they are on the federal govt's time. The constant threat of the antitrust excemption is just political bullying. I doubt that it is valid anyway. Other football leagues exist in the Arena league and the USFL and XFL were both failures. I personally find it troublesome that Congress has the time to spend on sports when there are so many other issues facing the country which are much more pressing but not nearly as interesting.

I mean is it in the best interest of the American people that we pursue a perjury case against Roger Clemens? What's next? Chuck Schumer calling for an investigation into the Yankees/Indians game that should have been halted due to flying insects? A congressional inquiry into the TENN/Rutgers womans game the other day when the clock "malfunctioned"?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The fact that Congress is having hearing on this is troubling. The fact that this is simply political grandstanding over an issue that has no relevence to the American public at large and was not a crime comitted against anyone seems to have been missed by the media except in rare instances. HGH is readily available and just this morning there was a story on CNN about a Dr. in Beverly Hills who "specializes" in antiaging who admitted on camera on national tv that only about 25 % of his customers have a true medical need for it. If there truly are enforcable laws concerning this drug then they dont seem to be enforced. Despite my own personal enjoyment of the hearings there is only flimsy evidence that Congress should be involved with the internal regulations of a private enterprise. The NFL case concerning "spygate" is even a bigger farce. The fact that the NFL destroyed evidence on a technical matter concerning their own regulations after the guilty parties have been repremanded is NOT the business of Arlen Spector or any other Senator or congressman while they are on the federal govt's time. The constant threat of the antitrust excemption is just political bullying. I doubt that it is valid anyway. Other football leagues exist in the Arena league and the USFL and XFL were both failures. I personally find it troublesome that Congress has the time to spend on sports when there are so many other issues facing the country which are much more pressing but not nearly as interesting.

I mean is it in the best interest of the American people that we pursue a perjury case against Roger Clemens? What's next? Chuck Schumer calling for an investigation into the Yankees/Indians game that should have been halted due to flying insects? A congressional inquiry into the TENN/Rutgers womans game the other day when the clock "malfunctioned"?

Exactly. At least with baseball and HGH, even though the laws aren't enforced, they at least have actual laws. The NFL thing is a complete joke. Not only are they not laws but the regulations of a private league but the guilty party already ADMITTED that they were guilty. It's actually beyond a joke.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Again,it is no surprise a trainer wants to go easy on guys cheating to get an edge on the other competitors in the workplace.I'm sure there are guys that could have made another 5 mil if they had taken these drugs and hung around a couple more years. After 40, it's difficult to keep body fat off,and HGH does do that.That alone would help guys with stamina(whether real physical stamina,or that resulting from the positive mental aspects of being in shape.)

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The fact that Congress is having hearing on this is troubling. The fact that this is simply political grandstanding over an issue that has no relevence to the American public at large and was not a crime comitted against anyone seems to have been missed by the media except in rare instances. HGH is readily available and just this morning there was a story on CNN about a Dr. in Beverly Hills who "specializes" in antiaging who admitted on camera on national tv that only about 25 % of his customers have a true medical need for it. If there truly are enforcable laws concerning this drug then they dont seem to be enforced.

Well,it is indeed illegal to take HGH without a prescription.It is indeed against the law to give it to patients without a deficiency or a specific disease (like Aids.) This doctor(Berger) in Beverly Hills will probably be investigated,and reprimanded(after making 2 or 3 million bucks.) If there was a way to give you the positive effects only(then they would be doing it.)Hormones affect a lot of organs in the body.If you have excess hormone in your body,then you will suffer long-term consequences. Go ahead n' try it.You will see hormones aren't as limited or( specific) in their action, as you would like.Don't take your body's organs for granted.You mess with them(by taking excess hormones,) and they can fail on you.The last thing you want to do is give the message to people that it's like taking a lil extra cough medicine(or extra-strong coffee.)