Zayat yanks Cali colts out

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Steve,

Zayat seems like a pretty decent guy. I imagine he's more p.o.'d at himself for waiting so long to leave California than he is 'testy.'

Here's a blurb on how Maimonides got his name:

http://www.markankcorn.com/?p=311

I'm not suggesting he isn't a decent guy.. Only that he obviously is a tad impetuous given the Del Mar incident last summer and this knee-jerk reaction. Here's Gomez' Massive Drama thoughts after yesterday:

“I was a little disappointed. We set decent enough fractions. After a half a mile, we quickened. But by the time I got to the top of the stretch, he was already emptied out on me. But he’s a talented little horse, and he’ll find something. I don’t think he’s a mile-and-a-quarter horse, but he’s definitely a nice little sprinter.”

Baffert has been bringing Maimonides and J Be K back, and now they end up in Bill Mott or Asmussen's barn? That's not particulary equitable...

Re: Maimonides.. He got a lot of press here last summer when he ran, with a local Maimonides Yeshiva bringing a busload of tatalahs to see him. He is supposed to be as gentle and pleasant as a horse can be and was great with the kids.

[Duvalier]

Mott gets Maimonides and EZ Warrior.

Asmussen gets J Be K.

Romans gets Massive Drama.

[Linny]

Zayat has invested a ton of money and has gotten better results with Assmussen, Mott and Romans (and Dutrow as well) than with Baffert. While I agree that it might have been "nicer" to make the switch before Baffert put all the time into Maimonides, it's a simple business decision. Zayat was dissatisfied with the Del Mar surface and asked Baffert to get them out of there. The move to NY was obviously successful. At that point, Zayat should have changed rather than return to Cali.
Nevertheless, Baffert has presumably been paid for training Maimonides up to now. Baffert is committed to Cali. It's his home an it's where he wants to be. That's his choice. If an owner wants out of Cali for whatever reason, he's no going to stay with Baffert. Zayat clearly finds leaving Cali more important than having Bob train his horses.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Linny

Zayat has invested a ton of money and has gotten better results with Assmussen, Mott and Romans (and Dutrow as well) than with Baffert. While I agree that it might have been "nicer" to make the switch before Baffert put all the time into Maimonides, it's a simple business decision. Zayat was dissatisfied with the Del Mar surface and asked Baffert to get them out of there. The move to NY was obviously successful. At that point, Zayat should have changed rather than return to Cali.
Nevertheless, Baffert has presumably been paid for training Maimonides up to now. Baffert is committed to Cali. It's his home an it's where he wants to be. That's his choice. If an owner wants out of Cali for whatever reason, he's no going to stay with Baffert. Zayat clearly finds leaving Cali more important than having Bob train his horses.

Makes sense to me.

Zayat pays his money.....he can make the choices he wants. And, when you throw in the synthetic debacle in California, there are more than mitigating circumstances here.

[NoLuvForPletch]

How come they didn't post it on facebook?

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

Mott gets Maimonides and EZ Warrior.

Asmussen gets J Be K.

Romans gets Massive Drama.

Nothing for Tony Dutrow?

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I'm not suggesting he isn't a decent guy.. Only that he obviously is a tad impetuous given the Del Mar incident last summer and this knee-jerk reaction. Here's Gomez' Massive Drama thoughts after yesterday:

“I was a little disappointed. We set decent enough fractions. After a half a mile, we quickened. But by the time I got to the top of the stretch, he was already emptied out on me. But he’s a talented little horse, and he’ll find something. I don’t think he’s a mile-and-a-quarter horse, but he’s definitely a nice little sprinter.”

Baffert has been bringing Maimonides and J Be K back, and now they end up in Bill Mott or Asmussen's barn? That's not particulary equitable...

Re: Maimonides.. He got a lot of press here last summer when he ran, with a local Maimonides Yeshiva bringing a busload of tatalahs to see him. He is supposed to be as gentle and pleasant as a horse can be and was great with the kids.

I hear you. Just seems that there's been nothing coming from the West to win much of anything for a while now. Maybe it changes but it doesn't look that way. And now, the 3 yo series there will have shorter fields of lesser colts.

I feel for Baffert but he's paying the price for not having a winter division at GP or FG or even Oaklawn. I just don't see how a trainer of 3 yo's can compete otherwise.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I'm not suggesting he isn't a decent guy.. Only that he obviously is a tad impetuous given the Del Mar incident last summer and this knee-jerk reaction. Here's Gomez' Massive Drama thoughts after yesterday:

“I was a little disappointed. We set decent enough fractions. After a half a mile, we quickened. But by the time I got to the top of the stretch, he was already emptied out on me. But he’s a talented little horse, and he’ll find something. I don’t think he’s a mile-and-a-quarter horse, but he’s definitely a nice little sprinter.”

Baffert has been bringing Maimonides and J Be K back, and now they end up in Bill Mott or Asmussen's barn? That's not particulary equitable...

Re: Maimonides.. He got a lot of press here last summer when he ran, with a local Maimonides Yeshiva bringing a busload of tatalahs to see him. He is supposed to be as gentle and pleasant as a horse can be and was great with the kids.

Bingo, Massive Drama has shown at least the last 2 times out that even 7 furlongs is a stretch for him. It's hard having a lot of money and emotional capital invested in a horse only to run up against the realities of the situation. He can not get the classic distances and is not Derby Quality. The cold realities will set in for many over the next 3 months.

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I'm not suggesting he isn't a decent guy.. Only that he obviously is a tad impetuous given the Del Mar incident last summer and this knee-jerk reaction. Here's Gomez' Massive Drama thoughts after yesterday:

“I was a little disappointed. We set decent enough fractions. After a half a mile, we quickened. But by the time I got to the top of the stretch, he was already emptied out on me. But he’s a talented little horse, and he’ll find something. I don’t think he’s a mile-and-a-quarter horse, but he’s definitely a nice little sprinter.”

Baffert has been bringing Maimonides and J Be K back, and now they end up in Bill Mott or Asmussen's barn? That's not particulary equitable...

Re: Maimonides.. He got a lot of press here last summer when he ran, with a local Maimonides Yeshiva bringing a busload of tatalahs to see him. He is supposed to be as gentle and pleasant as a horse can be and was great with the kids.

The horse is nice with Tatalahs, but his meshuguner owner is fachattered with California. He is moving the horses from the silver haired shaygitz to the 2 other goyisha kups that have better Derby hopes. I guess he'd had it and said gay cocken ofen yam. Now Baffert's left with bupkis. Zayat's not wrong as the track was chazzerai.

Loyzem gayne!!

[Danzig]

i feel like i'm in a mel brooks movie all of a sudden!

[cal828]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i feel like i'm in a mel brooks movie all of a sudden!

More like Blazing Saddles than Fiddler on the Roof?