The case for why Pyro is the most likely Derby winner right now

There are some horses running on the
funky stuff out west that I really want to
see on the dirt sometime.

I really want to see what the bad cat
can do on dirt. I think he might fit the bill.
But it is hard to tell because of the level
of competition and the surface.

The style is there and he can improve.

When is War Pass due back?

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

When is War Pass due back?

Allowance at GP later this month.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

When is War Pass due back?

February 23rd.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

February 23rd.

allowance, Florida Derby, Kentucky Derby?

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

allowance, Florida Derby, Kentucky Derby?

Allowance, Tampa Bay Derby, Wood.

What does Justin Dew
think of the Bad Cat,
Crown of Thorns, and
Court Vision?

[justindew]

Originally Posted by pgardn

What does Justin Dew
think of the Bad Cat,
Crown of Thorns, and
Court Vision?

Assuming my balls aren't being busted, which is a dangerous assumption here....

El Gato Malo- It seems like there is less talk about his potential distance limitations than there is about War Pass, even though this one is by El Corredor. Or maybe there is talk and I am just not hearing it. Plus there's the whole synthetic track thing. But he's done nothing wrong. It would not be a shock if he went into the KY Derby undefeated, where it came down to an issue of his ability to handle the surface and the distance. I like him.

Crown of Thorns- I'm not sure what he beat in the Lewis. I like others out West more than him. Probably #2 in his own barn anyway.

Court Vision- This is the kind of horse I am usually wrong about. He's looked awesome, but the speed numbers are not where some would want them to be. I would rate him among my Top 5 at this point, but I have this fear that BTW is on to something in his criticism.

[tiggerv]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

When is War Pass due back?

Allowance race on Feb 23rd. It will be carded as the "Bridgejumper Stakes"

[horseofcourse]

IT's just so early. Last year, we knew about Street Sense...Curlin had yet to run a race...and Hard Spun we had questions...and after the Southwest later in the month we had way more. Two years ago Barbaro had yet to run on dirt and had Bernardini even run a race yet??

It's way too hard this year especially in California...even if El Gato Malo becomes a monster...his first race on dirt will be the Derby. We will know nothing. I have to think there's more than Pyro and War Pass out there. Something else is going to pop up big time other than those two between now and then.