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[kentuckyrosesinmay]

I'm sorry, but I don't want anyone with less than a 3.45 GPA in their undergraduate program even being given the opportunity to go to any kind of med school, OD school, PharmD school, Dentistry school...etc. Doctors already screw up enough as it is...

UNC Chapel Hill statistics

Average entering medical school GPA: 3.65
Average entering PharD school GPA: 3.5

I don't think that is too outrageous. If it was really that competitive, shouldn't the GPAs be higher? Our medical school is #2 in the nation for primary care. #23 in the nation for research. Our pharmacy school is number 4 in the nation.

I am not full of ****. I studied Medical Geography intensively last semester with one of the best professors in the country. She was the first ever to receive a doctorate in that field, and has also taught at UCLA. I learned the demographics of disease throughout the world, and the United States has far more degenerative health problems and psychiatric health problems than the other countries that you mentioned. As a scientist, I ask why? What is the significance of the statistics, and what are the reasons behind the statistics. Statistics are often biased and meaningless, just as maps are... The numbers aren't that important unless you also look at the reasons why, and do your own research. I'll give you an example of the shortage of doctors. There is a big shortage of ODs and ophthamologists right now. In GA, there is 1 OD per 10,000 patients. There just aren't a lot of people that go into those fields. It has nothing to do with the AMA limiting applicants to go into optometry or ophthamology.

And I think that you have a psychiatrist mixed up with a psychologist. Psychiastrists prescribe medications, interpret electroencephalograms...etc.(let's see a nurse do those things). Psychologists are your counseling doctors. Psychiatrists are the ones that take care of people in mental institutions, and those that have diseases like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder...etc. They are very much needed in our society.

Nurse anesthetists make over 200,000 dollars a year. PA's make 100,000+ dollars a year. They went to school longer, so they are compensated for their work. MDs go to school for 12+ years, so they should be compensated for the extra training. If a nurse goes to school for more than 4 years, they should be compensated for the extra training. Anyone that has eight years of official training is considered a doctor. In no way should a nurse ever be able to prescribe medications because they would have to go to school for that long to be able to do it, which=doctor.

Also, colleges are not equipped to handle but a certain number of entering medical school students. Even huge medical colleges like Duke and Chapel Hill have to limit the number of applicants because there isn't enough equipment, enough space, or enough other doctors to take the time out of their work days to teach more students. These doctors need to be seeing patients with the shortages. Plus, who in their right mind wouldn't want to limit the applicants to the exceptional individuals? I don't want some dumb ass working on me or doing my surgeriesIt is an intensive program. Very intensive, and it should be.

Otherwise, who cares about all the people's lives that they would **** up by prescribing wrong medications and making wrong diagnoses right? (being sarcastic)

I asked my mom if doctors should make every bit of money that they make (I asked her because she works with them 5 days a week), and she said absolutely. They put in the time, they dedicated their lives, they went to college for that long, many of them work 80+ hours a week, and they should make the kind of money that they do. So, I don't think that it is right for anyone who doesn't know about the profession to be bad mouthing doctors just because they make more than the average person, and because they are against universal health care since it would make their jobs a lot more difficult for less pay.

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I asked my mom if doctors should make every bit of money that they make (I asked her because she works with them 5 days a week), and she said absolutely. They put in the time, they dedicated their lives, they went to college for that long, many of them work 80+ hours a week, and they should make the kind of money that they do. So, I don't think that it is right for anyone who doesn't know about the profession to be bad mouthing doctors just because they make more than the average person, and because they are against universal health care since it would make their jobs a lot more difficult for less pay.

Well I asked my wife the same thing and apparently some do and some dont. Just like most other jobs. There are so many specialists that make far too much money, and so many GP's who work their butt's off and dont make enough. There are many rural areas that need GP's badly. But everyone wants to be some sort of specialist. And the bottom line is they need to want to take care of folks.

The AMA is a union for Doctors, not patients.
Most teachers unions are for teachers, not students.

[AeWingnut]

this is all FDR's fault. employers had to offer benefits to attract employees because taxes were at 90% or something evil like that.

then everyone didn't care how much it cost because they had/ have insurance

and the government loves that everything is going up. They get a percentage you know.

but now friends of uncle Joe want to kill the golden goose

[hi_im_god]

i'm getting a ph.d. in something important and my mom invented both medical school and socialism.

that's just in case anyone questions my credentials.

anyone who posts below this has a serious mental illness. those who posted above should have their blood sugar levels checked.

[Danzig]

my mom could kick your moms butt!


my blood sugar is fine, so i must be mental.

[Rileyoriley]

If we have a serious mental illness, can we be covered by socialized medicine?




Will there be group rates???

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

And I think that you have a psychiatrist mixed up with a psychologist. Psychiastrists prescribe medications, interpret electroencephalograms...etc.(let's see a nurse do those things). Psychologists are your counseling doctors. Psychiatrists are the ones that take care of people in mental institutions, and those that have diseases like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder...etc. They are very much needed in our society.

I know exactly what Psychiatrists do.They prescribe medications that usually don't work,or don't work as well as they would love for people to think.They basically get people into a chronic state.That's what they do.They don't "cure" people very often.Tell me how they should get paid well when they don't get great results? That's a job a psychologist or nurse could easily do with minimal extra training.Everything you've written on this thread points out the huge problem we have in this country with the physicians thinking they should get rich off sick people.People should get rich off of luxury items(not by forcing the cost of a necessity thru the roof.)Like it or not,this will have to stop.The AMA is gunna have to be beaten.They've had their way,and it's going to stop.We're going to get some reasonably priced help in this country.So,if you want to be a rich bitch go into a field involving luxuries.They've "managed" the patient side all they can.Now it's time somebody managed the other side. They are going to have to get the costs down.The pigs to the trough is gunna have to end.Go into something else,because the time has come to put an end to greedy people as caregivers.The country is going to stop you from keeping costs high.The best way to do that is to pay for students training.This way we stop making it such a glamour position.No longer will this mainly be reserved for the rich kids in the society.Others will be able to go to medical school.There are plenty of people kept out by limiting the number of doctors artificially.People need reasonably priced care.That means keeping hi-priced parasites like you out of the system.You are the problem.You are not the solution at all.You keep ignoring the skyrocketing price of care.That means you and your dad getting rich.That's the problem.This problem can not be solved until we get the price of doctors salaries under control.You've had it your way,and it doesn't work.It's about the patients.For far too long it's been about doctors.No more.
We can do without you and your father.God willing we will have a chance to do so.Has to stop being all about you,and start being about the patients.Too much of this thread is about doctors.It's mainly because of the out of control egos of you and your father.That's the problem in the U.S. with healthcare(all about the AMA.)We are not ignorant.We know who is responsible for this,and it's simply people trying to get rich off of sick people.......BLOODSUCKERS

[timmgirvan]

The FDA is in bed with the AMA, so the Patient will always be the loser! Doctors HAVE to become specialists because G.P.'s get financially minimized by the Insurance Giants! It's called Capitation...you can look it up
On the other hand .."socialized medicine" is nothing more than enforced mediocrity on the Doctors, and suffered by the Patients! How many of you have made fun/joked about county workers fixing our roads. Same thing with the Doctors under the Thumb of Healthcare Giants! Each patient counts the same...as little as 10 bucks a patient,depending on the various insurers that the Doctors office makes available to Patients! If the Doctors don't run the patients thru the office at a 'brisk pace'...then they're penalized by the Insurers! That is Fact! Other than that..I got nothing

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

UNC Chapel Hill statistics

Any place that Rasheed Wallace graduates from cant be too great.