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[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Americans spend more on health care because of degenerative diseases such as heart disease and cancer. A large part of this is due to the increasing obesity rates of Americans. Rich Americans also love plastic surgery.

Infant mortality was not as high as it is now under this same health care system 20 years ago. In fact, America had the lowest infant mortality rate of all the developed countries 20 years ago.

And I agree that Americans have this "it won't happen to me" outlook on life, but that is no one's fault but their own.

1) The government should not pay for universal health care.

2) When an individual has a child, that individual should be responsible enough to take care of that child under ALL circumstances.

3) It should not be America's duty to make up for poor decisions made by individuals.

4) Do away with welfare. It makes Americans more lazy. Socialism makes Americans more lazy (i.e. welfare).

5) Doctors earn the right to make what they make by not having as long of a life expectancy as they would if they weren't a doctor. They earn the right by trading their lives through their dedication and pledge of serving others.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Americans spend more on health care because of degenerative diseases such as heart disease and cancer. A large part of this is due to the increasing obesity rates of Americans. Rich Americans also love plastic surgery.

Infant mortality was not as high as it is now under this same health care system 20 years ago. In fact, America had the lowest infant mortality rate of all the developed countries 20 years ago.

And I agree that Americans have this "it won't happen to me" outlook on life, but that is no one's fault but their own.

1) The government should not pay for universal health care.

2) When an individual has a child, that individual should be responsible enough to take care of that child under ALL circumstances.

3) It should not be America's duty to make up for poor decisions made by individuals.

4) Do away with welfare. It makes Americans more lazy. Socialism makes Americans more lazy (i.e. welfare).

5) Doctors earn the right to make what they make by not having as long of a life expectancy as they would if they weren't a doctor. They earn the right by trading their lives through their dedication and pledge of serving others.

I just told you there are insured couples that have babies,and lose everything because the baby is sick for a year.That's the fkd up situation you are backing.These are supposed to be insured people.See, your way doesn't work,and if it did then nobody would be trying to fix it.I'm not surprised that a doctor's daughter could care less if people lose everything.You pretty much want every male in America to give up a testicle because somebody has doctor in front of their name.Doctors in the U.S, are parasites ready to make a buck off somebody who is sick. They don't want to touch somebody without a check,and they don't want to allow anybody to do it for a reasonable price.So,we pay twice as much for each citizen's care,and still some people lose everything due to a kid's illness.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I just told you there are insured couples that have babies,and lose everything because the baby is sick for a year.That's the fkd up situation you are backing.These are supposed to be insured people.See, your way doesn't work,and if it did then nobody would be trying to fix it.I'm not surprised that a doctor's daughter could care less if people lose everything.You pretty much want every male in America to give up a testicle because somebody has doctor in front of their name.

No, it shouldn't be we the people's job to pay more taxes for those individuals that made poor decisions or are lazy. I shouldn't be punished for that because that is exactly what universal health care would be for me and many other Americans. And it's not doctors' faults. It is the big corporations, big pharma, and the insurance companies in general. That part of the system is what needs to be changed. Go after them. Not the American people and the doctors. Universal health care=taxes raised for everyone. The doctors only try to do their jobs.

So, I told you how much my dad and boyfriend work. How much are they supposed to work to see everyone in a timely fashion with universal health care? THERE AREN'T ENOUGH HOURS IN A DAY OR ENOUGH DOCTORS TO GO AROUND!!!

I do care. I care a lot. So much that I just donated some money that I don't have to feed starving people around the country. It was my choice. But, it shouldn't be everyone else's responsibility to make up for others who are not responsible. They shouldn't be made to do it. The American people should be able to choose what charity work that they want to do. I shouldn't have to be made to pay for some lazy, irresponsible *******'s health coverage or some rapist's health coverage.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

No, it shouldn't be we the people's job to pay more taxes for those individuals that made poor decisions or are lazy. I shouldn't be punished for that because that is exactly what universal health care would be for me and many other Americans. And it's not doctors' faults. It is the big corporations, big pharma, and the insurance companies in general. That part of the system is what needs to be changed. Go after them. Not the American people and the doctors. Universal health care=taxes raised for everyone. The doctors only try to do their jobs.

So, I told you how much my dad and boyfriend work. How much are they supposed to work to see everyone in a timely fashion with universal health care? THERE AREN'T ENOUGH HOURS IN A DAY OR ENOUGH DOCTORS TO GO AROUND!!!

I do care. I care a lot. So much that I just donated some money that I don't have to feed starving people around the country. It was my choice. But, it shouldn't be everyone else's responsibility to make up for others who are not responsible. They shouldn't be made to do it. The American people should be able to choose what charity work that they want to do. I shouldn't have to be made to pay for some lazy, irresponsible *******'s health coverage or some rapist's health coverage.

Pretty much the same(or more) # of doctors/1000 people in countries like Germany,France, Sweden,and Switzerland.I'll take a nurse with extra training over an ass-hole doctor any day.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING.If you have NATIONAL HEALTHCARE,you will very quickly get the border protected.Trust me,you will see quick action,then(and probably only then.)

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Pretty much the same(or more) # of doctors/1000 people in countries like Germany,France, Sweden,and Switzerland.I'll take a nurse with extra training over an ass-hole doctor any day.

I'm sure that nurse could perform surgery too.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Pretty much the same(or more) # of doctors/1000 people in countries like Germany,France, Sweden,and Switzerland.I'll take a nurse with extra training over an ass-hole doctor any day.

By the way, my mom's a nurse, my uncle's a nurse, my aunt's a nurse, my step-mom is a nurse...etc.

Their lives would be made more of a hell through universal health care as well! They work hard enough as it is...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

No, it shouldn't be we the people's job to pay more taxes for those individuals that made poor decisions or are lazy. I shouldn't be punished for that because that is exactly what universal health care would be for me and many other Americans. And it's not doctors' faults. It is the big corporations, big pharma, and the insurance companies in general. That part of the system is what needs to be changed. Go after them. Not the American people and the doctors. Universal health care=taxes raised for everyone. The doctors only try to do their jobs.

So, I told you how much my dad and boyfriend work. How much are they supposed to work to see everyone in a timely fashion with universal health care? THERE AREN'T ENOUGH HOURS IN A DAY OR ENOUGH DOCTORS TO GO AROUND!!!

I do care. I care a lot. So much that I just donated some money that I don't have to feed starving people around the country. It was my choice. But, it shouldn't be everyone else's responsibility to make up for others who are not responsible. They shouldn't be made to do it. The American people should be able to choose what charity work that they want to do. I shouldn't have to be made to pay for some lazy, irresponsible *******'s health coverage or some rapist's health coverage.

actually, health care probably could be paid for with what we already pay to the govt. other programs would have to be cut. IF they did come up with a viable health care plan, medicaid/medicare would no longer be necessary (i'd assume)...and it would be nice if pols would put the necessities of life first, and maybe cut the foreign aid budget, or bs pork barrely spending for their home states. once upon a time, afghanistan got more of our money than any other foreign country--an attempt by us to buy favor. that worked well.....

i read an article the other day that talked about our military budget. it's astronomical. of course i always knew it was fairly high...but it compared what we spent to our next closest 'competitor', china. the gap between us and them is beyond huge. and a lot of that is wasteful--look at the v-2 osprey program. no telling how much that has cost over the years, and the damned thing still doesn't work right.

but it's a pipe dream to think that taxes wouldn't go up tremendously to fund national healthcare. and who will get stuck holding the tab yet again? those of us in the middle class, as always. and then the middle class gets accused of being selfish, while footing the majority of every bill the 'govt' pays.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Americans spend more on health care because of degenerative diseases such as heart disease and cancer. A large part of this is due to the increasing obesity rates of Americans. Rich Americans also love plastic surgery.

Infant mortality was not as high as it is now under this same health care system 20 years ago. In fact, America had the lowest infant mortality rate of all the developed countries 20 years ago.

And I agree that Americans have this "it won't happen to me" outlook on life, but that is no one's fault but their own.

1) The government should not pay for universal health care.

2) When an individual has a child, that individual should be responsible enough to take care of that child under ALL circumstances.

3) It should not be America's duty to make up for poor decisions made by individuals.

4) Do away with welfare. It makes Americans more lazy. Socialism makes Americans more lazy (i.e. welfare).

5) Doctors earn the right to make what they make by not having as long of a life expectancy as they would if they weren't a doctor. They earn the right by trading their lives through their dedication and pledge of serving others.

Poor decisions? How about living in trailers in twister country? Huh? Why don't we just ignore their problems too? That's Socialism(helping them.)Geedubbya got real generous when he saw their torn up trailers.All the sudden he turned a part-time Socialist and said "The Government can help too." Capitalism would be to round them up,and tell them they are now fkd.Time to rake leafs for your rich doctor dad......Hurry up,two or three people on this block need leafs raked up.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Poor decisions? How about living in trailers in twister country? Huh? Why don't we just ignore their problems too? That's Socialism(helping them.)Geedubbya got real generous when he saw their torn up trailers.All the sudden he turned a part-time Socialist and said "The Government can help too." Capitalism would be to round them up,and tell them they are now fkd.Time to rake leafs for your rich doctor dad......Hurry up,two or three people on this block need leafs raked up.

What did you do to help the victims of Katrina out? When Hurricane Katrina hit, I did as much charity work as I possibly could at the time. My honor club at my college got as many toys and goods (food etc.) as we possibly could to send to them. I think the federal government should donate money to organizations to help people because the organizations will most likely know how to distribute the funds better. I don't have a problem with that when a natural disaster occurs. I don't think the government should directly give money to the people. I have no problem in giving people money that deserve it. It's just there are a lot of people that don't deserve it. People that need to get off their asses, work, and make better decisions (i.e. universal health care and welfare)

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

What did you do to help the victims of Katrina out? When Hurricane Katrina hit, I did as much charity work as I possibly could at the time. My honor club at my college got as many toys and goods (food etc.) as we possibly could to send to them. I think the federal government should donate money to organizations to help people because the organizations will most likely know how to distribute the funds better. I don't have a problem with that when a natural disaster occurs. I don't think the government should directly give money to the people. I have no problem in giving people money that deserve it. It's just there are a lot of people that don't deserve it. People that need to get off their asses, work, and make better decisions (i.e. universal health care and welfare)

Conservatives always love private charities.It's a way to say "I hate the Government.I hate to pay my taxes." Here is a cracker...Get better.It's a way to deal with the guilt from knowing your a selfish bitch.Almost all people who are for the tax cuts for the rich are huge fans of private charities.Makes them feel better even though they know inside just how selfish they are.If you gave a **** about those people in Katrina,then they would of had National Healthcare.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Conservatives always love private charities.It's a way to say "I hate the Government.I hate to pay my taxes." Here is a cracker...Get better.It's a way to deal with the guilt from knowing your a selfish bitch.Almost all people who are for the tax cuts for the rich are huge fans of private charities.Makes them feel better even though they know inside just how selfish they are.If you gave a **** about those people in Katrina,then they would of had National Healthcare.

Most of them had/have medicaid.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Most of them had/have medicaid.

I thought that you were a Republican?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Most of them had/have medicaid.

Not people working paycheck to paycheck(and using every penny for bills.)The kinds of people Danzig and Romney think are partying away drinking 40 ounce malt liquor instead of buying healthcare.Fact is they probably needed every bit to pay their bills.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

A lot of you consider yourself Christians (even if you don't attend church regularly.)I just want to say that Christ said it's pretty important how you treat the least among you.The least wasteful way to do that is National Healthcare.Nobody is gunna buy crack with it.Nobody is gunna be acting lazy while doing it(they have to get up and go to the doctor.)Nobody is gunna want to use it.They will use it when they have to.It's a lot better than giving checks out to be used in any way they want.There are only 2 reasons to be against it:

1)selfishnous

2)dislike of the poor

Like I said,it's a predominantly Christian country,.So,it would appear people simply ignore their own religion.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Not people working paycheck to paycheck(and using every penny for bills.)The kinds of people Danzig and Romney think are partying away drinking 40 ounce malt liquor instead of buying healthcare.Fact is they probably needed every bit to pay their bills.

tony and i were like that for years. we struggled for a long time after we got married. money was tight, paycheck to paycheck just like you wrote. but we had insurance. it was never given a second thought, and never considered as anything other than an absolute necessity.
you hear a lot of talk about those withou coverage--but how many of the people without coverage truly have no alternative? how many without private insurance are covered thru the medical plans already in place?

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Conservatives always love private charities.It's a way to say "I hate the Government.I hate to pay my taxes." Here is a cracker...Get better.It's a way to deal with the guilt from knowing your a selfish bitch.Almost all people who are for the tax cuts for the rich are huge fans of private charities.Makes them feel better even though they know inside just how selfish they are.If you gave a **** about those people in Katrina,then they would of had National Healthcare.

I don't get tax cuts from what I donated because I don't work right now.

And I think the selfish thing is the other way around. I think it is selfish to ask hard working American people to pay more in taxes so those who haven't worked enough in life or made poor decisions can have universal health care.

How would Universal Health Care have helped them rebuild their homes? That has got to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. Again, you didn't do any volunteer work for the Katrina victims I take it. I not only gave my money, but I gave my time as well.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

It's weird. On one hand I really want to put you on ignore, because hearing about your every thought and take on the world is making me ill. But I find myself curious as to what you might say next. It's like when you drive by a car accident and know you should look away but your curiosity get's the best of you.

What don't you agree with?

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

^ Won't answer because requires too much thought...

[Late Fires]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

It's weird. On one hand I really want to put you on ignore, because hearing about your every thought and take on the world is making me ill. But I find myself curious as to what you might say next. It's like when you drive by a car accident and know you should look away but your curiosity get's the best of you.

^^^Did not score 1390 on SAT