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Old 02-04-2008, 04:53 PM
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Default Great Call on Alaazo!

I heard, last week, that he's the hottest horse in the Mott barn.....
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Old 02-04-2008, 05:15 PM
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I heard, last week, that he's the hottest horse in the Mott barn.....
He's gonna be a SUPERSTAR!!!

Look at the way he demolished:

1) a turf horse, that's also one of the PREEMINENT suckups in racing --Titan of Industry --- INCREDIBLY, this one went off the chalk

2) a turf sprinter --- Atwell ---if I were the owner I'd reassess my trainer choice

3) a horse that doesn't want to go a mile, let alone 2 turns --- Mambo Meister --- I know this but Gleaves obviously doesn't; and, he apparently spread the word about his good thing.

4) a horse that just didn't run to his last race --- Aquarian

5) a horse that was just around to pick it all up late --- Extreme Frolic


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Old 02-04-2008, 05:32 PM
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Man, you guys are a tough crowd. It was a $40,000 allowance race for the love of god. Are you expecting to find a lot of stakes-caliber horses in there? I haven't heard anybody saying that the horse is going to go on and win the Florida Derby or anything, but it was a decent win.
As for the selection, the horse was the 4th choice on the board and I sure didn't see a lot to like so, to those who played him, I just offer congratulations. I really don't care who they are or what website they discussed the pick on. A winner is a winner.
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Old 02-04-2008, 05:49 PM
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Man, you guys are a tough crowd. It was a $40,000 allowance race for the love of god. Are you expecting to find a lot of stakes-caliber horses in there? I haven't heard anybody saying that the horse is going to go on and win the Florida Derby or anything, but it was a decent win.

Well, a poster just said he was the " hottest horse in the Mott barn ", and considering that barn includes highly ranked 3YOs Majestic Warrior and Court Vision, I don't think it's unfair to call out the ridiculousness of that comment. The Fat Man's description of the race was pretty accurate, and even though I question Majestic Warrior's potential going long on the dirt and Court Vision's overall ability, I don't think today's winner would be fairly labelled as that poster suggested.

He's had two starts. One was a markedly weak winning effort and today's was a workmanlike step in the right direction. Nobody is better at developing talent than Bill Mott, so perhaps this one will take some further giant leaps forward, but unreasonable comments like that poster made are open to derision.
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Old 02-04-2008, 10:25 PM
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Well, a poster just said he was the " hottest horse in the Mott barn ", and considering that barn includes highly ranked 3YOs Majestic Warrior and Court Vision, I don't think it's unfair to call out the ridiculousness of that comment. The Fat Man's description of the race was pretty accurate, and even though I question Majestic Warrior's potential going long on the dirt and Court Vision's overall ability, I don't think today's winner would be fairly labelled as that poster suggested.

He's had two starts. One was a markedly weak winning effort and today's was a workmanlike step in the right direction. Nobody is better at developing talent than Bill Mott, so perhaps this one will take some further giant leaps forward, but unreasonable comments like that poster made are open to derision.
My friends were at Payson last week and were told this.....They watched the horse gallop with some, let's just say affiliates. I didn't make the comment "off the cuff".....not my style
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Old 02-04-2008, 10:37 PM
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My friends were at Payson last week and were told this.....They watched the horse gallop with some, let's just say affiliates. I didn't make the comment "off the cuff".....not my style
well, Justin Zayat probably knows a little about the horses in Zayat Stables through his dad, and said that he thinks Alaazo is the most serious contender that they have. I don't know about this, but they are really high on him.
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:57 PM
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He's gonna be a SUPERSTAR!!!

Look at the way he demolished:

1) a turf horse, that's also one of the PREEMINENT suckups in racing --Titan of Industry --- INCREDIBLY, this one went off the chalk

2) a turf sprinter --- Atwell ---if I were the owner I'd reassess my trainer choice

3) a horse that doesn't want to go a mile, let alone 2 turns --- Mambo Meister --- I know this but Gleaves obviously doesn't; and, he apparently spread the word about his good thing.

4) a horse that just didn't run to his last race --- Aquarian

5) a horse that was just around to pick it all up late --- Extreme Frolic


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Excellent analysis by the fat man. Talk about being spot on after the fact. I'm guessing with that same expert analysis prior to the race...you must have made a bundle in the 6th at Gulfstream today.

No need to respond...just pointing it out for the college crowd.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:23 PM
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Excellent analysis by the fat man. Talk about being spot on after the fact. I'm guessing with that same expert analysis prior to the race...you must have made a bundle in the 6th at Gulfstream today.

No need to respond...just pointing it out for the college crowd.
The Fat Man is generous with his knowledge and has a terrific opinion. I think we can all learn a lot from him.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:31 PM
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The Fat Man is generous with his knowledge and has a terrific opinion. I think we can all learn a lot from him.
Hope so...I know the fat man is a solid handicapper...just don't see a reason to belittle someone who is obviously newer to the sport.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:36 PM
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Hope so...I know the fat man is a solid handicapper...just don't see a reason to belittle someone who is obviously newer to the sport.

Well, maybe that poster is new and maybe not, but it's the ultimate democracy on the internet, and if you want to post you are open to responses.

You can say the Fat Man was belittling him, but you could also say that he was educating him, and if that poster took the latter approach he would learn a lot in a very short period of time.

And, if that poster is new to the game, and wants to stick around, he better learn to take a beating, because this game will give you one on a constant basis.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:41 PM
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Maybe even a few people became educated about Alaazo today.
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Old 02-04-2008, 10:38 PM
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Well, maybe that poster is new and maybe not, but it's the ultimate democracy on the internet, and if you want to post you are open to responses.

You can say the Fat Man was belittling him, but you could also say that he was educating him, and if that poster took the latter approach he would learn a lot in a very short period of time.

And, if that poster is new to the game, and wants to stick around, he better learn to take a beating, because this game will give you one on a constant basis.
The horse was probably downgraded three notches before he even ran because he was touted by Irish from Facebook...two questionable resources

It was a fun thread to follow, and as Andy said, it's good when "young" people are involved in this sport...regardless of the legitimacy

I give Irish credit..reluctantly..he is ripped up and down ( deservedly) for his ND posts and then he touts horses unabashedly from Mott's kid on Facebook and still shows up cheerfully to put up or shut up
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