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Old 02-01-2008, 10:02 AM
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What about 12-1 on Tiago? Or 25-1 on Chelokee?
seriously. what happened to responsible bookmaking?!?!?
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:56 AM
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seriously. what happened to responsible bookmaking?!?!?
Just Ridiculous.

Quoting Roger Stein " They should have a sign in Vegas, No Gambling Allowed "
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Old 02-01-2008, 12:35 PM
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30-1 on Zanjero made me laugh
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Old 02-01-2008, 01:00 PM
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25-1 on Daaher is the only price that's even rational.
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Old 02-01-2008, 01:01 PM
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If forced to choose one of the above, would probably take the 25-1 on Daaher.
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Old 02-01-2008, 01:03 PM
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30-1 on Zanjero made me laugh
The sharps are on to him. Trust.
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:44 PM
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I know many handicappers who take advantage of the future wagers. Last year, one had 100 to win on Any Given Saturday at 40-1. With that wager, he was completely able to avoid using AGS in the race. It's a great way to hedge.

Certainly picking a race 9 months from now is difficult, but that's why you're getting some great prices. Curlin @ 2-1... terrible. But for a horse like Pyro, at 50-1, if he developes and does well, he could be 8-1 in the actual gate.

If you can find 10 horses at average odds of 50-1, and plunk $10 to win on each, you're spending $100, but if one of those horses wins, you get $500. That's not terrible. If 4 of those 10 make the gate at the BC, that's 4 less horses you have to place wagers on.

I don't think future wagers are the craziest thing out there. Slots machines, roulette etc... now that's crazy.
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:46 PM
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Just to add a bit more, we also have to realize that a good chunk of the good horses from last year have retired, Curlin being the exception. The Zanjero's and A.P. Arrow's of the world moved-up a ton with the purging of so many handicap horses.
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Old 02-01-2008, 05:20 PM
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Yeah, but they haven't moved up that much.
Indeed. If AP Arrow wins the BC Classic, I'll chuck this whole sport out the window and begin watching professional kite-flying, or worse....the NBA.
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:52 PM
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Future odds are not crazy at all. But in this day in age of retirement after you run great once, the odds of getting to the race are so large that they don't warrant anything less then 100-1
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:58 PM
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Futures are only good if you get legitimate odds. There dont seem to be many on that list.
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:23 AM
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I thought 20-1 on AP Arrow was kind of funny.
Isnt he like 15-1 in the Donn this weekend?
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