Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > The Steve Dellinger Discourse Den
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-31-2008, 09:20 PM
kentuckyrosesinmay's Avatar
kentuckyrosesinmay kentuckyrosesinmay is offline
Churchill Downs
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: UNC-CH will always miss Eve Carson. RIP.
Posts: 1,874
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
This man is one of the biggest racists
in Texas. Jeez Louise... Take a look at
his past. He has quite a few supporters
because he SAYS some things that make
sense. But actions say otherwise.

Take a look and find out what this
man said about pickpocketing in
DC. You just dont take what a man
says right now and forget everything else.
Please point me to a link that talks about Ron Paul's statements about pickpocketing because I can't find the information on pick-pocketing anywhere.

Also, the HardBall with Chris Matthews when Ron Paul was his guest are all over the internet. Yet, I can't find where he mentioned the Civil War...Perhaps you were talking about Tim Russert.

Look, Ron Paul did write some things that weren't politically correct in the past. I know that. I don't ignore that. But, I forgive him because I don't have any other choice but to vote for him. It is my duty as an American to keep the war loving GOPs out of the presidency.

In addition, he is more successful that most would ever hope to be, and makes more money than most would ever hope to. He made it at one of the top universities in the country that many people flunk out of, and he got an MD from there no less. So, logical thinking leads me to believe he isn't the idiot that some on here make him out to be. He is a doctor and he keeps getting elected. I guess the Texans that keep electing him over and over again must ALL be stupid

I thought you were supposed to be a professor? So, why don't you present a valid argument about the issues at stake here instead of spewing out false and weak statements. Because you are just wasting your time otherwise. Those of us who support Ron Paul are in it for the long run. And obviously, Ron Paul supporters have to possess a lot of integrity and guts to admit the unfavorable view that the mainstream media gives us. I respect anyone who goes against the odds to support him.

BTW, who's your candidate?

Last edited by kentuckyrosesinmay : 01-31-2008 at 09:35 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-31-2008, 09:43 PM
pgardn
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Please point me to a link that talks about Ron Paul's statements about pickpocketing because I can't find the information on pick-pocketing anywhere.

Also, the HardBall with Chris Matthews when Ron Paul was his guest are all over the internet. Yet, I can't find where he mentioned the Civil War...Perhaps you were talking about Tim Russert.

Look, Ron Paul did write some things that weren't politically correct in the past, but he is more successful that most would ever hope to be, and makes more money than most would ever hope to. I guess the Texans that keep electing him over and over again must ALL be stupid

I thought you were supposed to be a professor? So, why don't you present a valid argument about the issues at stake here instead of spewing out false and weak statements.

Who's your candidate?
You are absolutely correct.
It was Tim Russert.
So go find that and explain to me what he said.
Tell me where I minced words.

Yes all the Texans in his sweet little
rich corner of the world in a wealthy
Houston area. Anyone can get elected to
the House.
Marion Barry was elected
again after getting busted for drugs.
Cant rich white people be as stupid?

Politically correct?

Professor? I am a lowly Physics teacher.

And I dont care what the issues are in his case.
He is a certified nut imo. He is so out of bounds
I cant even consider him as a viable person
to be in government (which he would rather
did not exist)

There is so much crap from this guy I dont
have the time. I will try and find his statement
about the pickpockets. But you dig for the rest
if you really care.

My candidate:
I dont know.
It will be very difficult
between Obama and McCain.
Wont be Hillary. If it is Romney
and Hillary, I guess Romney.
Probably McCain. But I am
wavering because he is pandering
so much right now to get elected.
Which I realize is necessary.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-31-2008, 09:34 PM
Mortimer's Avatar
Mortimer Mortimer is offline
Thistley Downs
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 21,864
Default

^^^ Has no idea who this guy is.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-31-2008, 09:36 PM
Mortimer's Avatar
Mortimer Mortimer is offline
Thistley Downs
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 21,864
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Why are you guys wasting so much time arguing about a guy who has zero chance of getting the GOP nomination?

^^^Wants to vote for Perot,but afraid to ask if he's running.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-31-2008, 09:41 PM
kentuckyrosesinmay's Avatar
kentuckyrosesinmay kentuckyrosesinmay is offline
Churchill Downs
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: UNC-CH will always miss Eve Carson. RIP.
Posts: 1,874
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
a guy who has zero chance of getting the GOP nomination?
We established that fact about 8 pages ago....
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-31-2008, 09:51 PM
GBBob GBBob is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,342
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
We established that fact about 8 pages ago....
There are predators circling everywhere so I hesitate to enter this dialogue.
but...

KRIM..Will you vote in the General Election?...I'm sure you have figured out by now that Paul has slighty less than zero chance to get elected, so will you support a Dem against your hated Darth McCain..

for what it's worth..I've never voted republican, but if McCain beats Oprah Pantsuit, I won't be crushed
__________________
"but there's just no point in trying to predict when the narcissits finally figure out they aren't living in the most important time ever."
hi im god quote
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-31-2008, 09:57 PM
Cajungator26's Avatar
Cajungator26 Cajungator26 is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hossy's Mom's basement.
Posts: 10,217
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GBBob
There are predators circling everywhere so I hesitate to enter this dialogue.
but...

KRIM..Will you vote in the General Election?...I'm sure you have figured out by now that Paul has slighty less than zero chance to get elected, so will you support a Dem against your hated Darth McCain..

for what it's worth..I've never voted republican, but if McCain beats Oprah Pantsuit, I won't be crushed
Eek... I wish we had some better choices.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-31-2008, 10:01 PM
GBBob GBBob is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,342
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Eek... I wish we had some better choices.
but you're a conservative..beauty is in the eye of the beholder

i'm pretty happy with both..well..except Hilary is unelectable..slight problem
__________________
"but there's just no point in trying to predict when the narcissits finally figure out they aren't living in the most important time ever."
hi im god quote
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-31-2008, 10:25 PM
Mortimer's Avatar
Mortimer Mortimer is offline
Thistley Downs
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 21,864
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Eek... I wish we had some better choices.


^^ ^ Stepped in DitzInMay's frog trap...gnawed off own foot.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-31-2008, 10:03 PM
Cajungator26's Avatar
Cajungator26 Cajungator26 is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hossy's Mom's basement.
Posts: 10,217
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Seriously. So since you won't be able to vote for Paul, will you vote for McCain?
Yes...

I cringed typing that, but yes, I'll vote for McCain if he's the GOP candidate.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-31-2008, 10:16 PM
Cajungator26's Avatar
Cajungator26 Cajungator26 is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hossy's Mom's basement.
Posts: 10,217
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Out of curiosity, why would you vote for someone that you don't like? Is it just because they are the GOP candidate? What if say a convicted pedophile was the GOP candidate, would they get your vote also?

I'm not trying to give you a hard time, I just don't understand that rationale. And since you asked earlier, I haven't made up my mind yet, but I am planning on voting for Hillary if she makes it that far. If it's between Obama and MCCain, I'll take Obama because McCain scares me frankly.
Because it will be probably be him against Hillary or Obama and I dislike those two (on where they stand - not race or gender ) even more. If a convicted pedophile was running, I would say that the chances are highly unlikely that I would vote for that person regardless of whether or not that person was the GOP candidate.

The only alternative to my dilemna is to avoid voting at all. I just can't do that, though... I believe that if one doesn't vote, then that person has no room to complain about the current state of affairs. Voting is really our only way to 'voice our opinion' and I think it's scary that more Americans don't care.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-31-2008, 10:31 PM
Cajungator26's Avatar
Cajungator26 Cajungator26 is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hossy's Mom's basement.
Posts: 10,217
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Thanks for answering. Like I said, I wasn't trying to be snotty. just curious and you make a good arguement for your case. I agree with your last paragraph.
You didn't sound snotty at all. Now Morty on the other hand...















































His face is next to the word 'snotty' in the dictionary.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-31-2008, 10:16 PM
GBBob GBBob is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,342
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Out of curiosity, why would you vote for someone that you don't like? Is it just because they are the GOP candidate? What if say a convicted pedophile was the GOP candidate, would they get your vote also?

I'm not trying to give you a hard time, I just don't understand that rationale. And since you asked earlier, I haven't made up my mind yet, but I am planning on voting for Hillary if she makes it that far. If it's between Obama and MCCain, I'll take Obama because McCain scares me frankly.
I have a funny feeling that you might disagree with my "Saying they both suck and I'm not voting" comment
__________________
"but there's just no point in trying to predict when the narcissits finally figure out they aren't living in the most important time ever."
hi im god quote
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-31-2008, 10:26 PM
kentuckyrosesinmay's Avatar
kentuckyrosesinmay kentuckyrosesinmay is offline
Churchill Downs
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: UNC-CH will always miss Eve Carson. RIP.
Posts: 1,874
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GBBob
I have a funny feeling that you might disagree with my "Saying they both suck and I'm not voting" comment
No, I won't really disagree. We really do have some bad choices... While I think that being active in an election is very important, I actually thought about not voting myself because I knew Ron Paul didn't stand a chance. But, from my view, I really think it is important to keep McCain out of office. If you wonder why I don't like McCain, all you have to do is watch him singing the "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" tune to the Beach Boys melody. I love peace. Not war, not destruction. Peace. And the fact that the potential future president of the US sung that makes me sick.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-31-2008, 10:09 PM
kentuckyrosesinmay's Avatar
kentuckyrosesinmay kentuckyrosesinmay is offline
Churchill Downs
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: UNC-CH will always miss Eve Carson. RIP.
Posts: 1,874
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GBBob
There are predators circling everywhere so I hesitate to enter this dialogue.
but...

KRIM..Will you vote in the General Election?...I'm sure you have figured out by now that Paul has slighty less than zero chance to get elected, so will you support a Dem against your hated Darth McCain..

for what it's worth..I've never voted republican, but if McCain beats Oprah Pantsuit, I won't be crushed
Yes, I will vote. From the look of things, I will be voting for a Dem. I don't like any of the candidates who will be left standing come Nov, but I have to vote for the lesser of the evils. I am really hoping NC will go Dem.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-31-2008, 09:52 PM
GBBob GBBob is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,342
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
You seemed to miss the question why then. It's like you are arguing that you think the Green Bay Packers would make the best Super Bowl team this year. Only problem is they aren't in the game, so you'd be wasting your time.
hey..wait a minute
__________________
"but there's just no point in trying to predict when the narcissits finally figure out they aren't living in the most important time ever."
hi im god quote
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-31-2008, 09:59 PM
GBBob GBBob is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,342
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Good luck on Saturday. I would have rather seen the Packers than the Giants myself. But I had to tarnish the Packers good name to make my point.
valid point though
__________________
"but there's just no point in trying to predict when the narcissits finally figure out they aren't living in the most important time ever."
hi im god quote
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-31-2008, 10:03 PM
kentuckyrosesinmay's Avatar
kentuckyrosesinmay kentuckyrosesinmay is offline
Churchill Downs
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: UNC-CH will always miss Eve Carson. RIP.
Posts: 1,874
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
You seemed to miss the question why then. It's like you are arguing that you think the Green Bay Packers would make the best Super Bowl team this year. Only problem is they aren't in the game, so you'd be wasting your time.
I do not feel like restating my reasons again. Go back, read through the posts, and then you will see for yourself the reasons for keeping this topic going. The main argument is foreign policy.

Why does it really matter who or what we are debating or for what reasons? Having conversations on some deep issues is what is important.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 01-31-2008, 10:11 PM
GBBob GBBob is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,342
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I do not feel like restating my reasons again. Go back, read through the posts, and then you will see for yourself the reasons for keeping this topic going. The main argument is foreign policy.

Why does it really matter who or what we are debating or for what reasons? Having conversations on some deep issues is what is important.

Unfortunately, one thing you'll learn as you get older is that while being principled is always important, compromise is as well. Ralph Nader and Ross Perot are polar examples of how being tied in to an unelectable candidate can hurt your big picture.

I only hope you throw your passion for Ron Paul towards someone running in November. That's why candidates dropping out endorse someone. Saying they both suck and I'm not voting doesn't work
__________________
"but there's just no point in trying to predict when the narcissits finally figure out they aren't living in the most important time ever."
hi im god quote
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 01-31-2008, 10:18 PM
pgardn
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I used to read Ron Paul's own Newsletters
because I had an aquaintance in Houston who thought
they were funny. He really thought they were funny
because he believed they were true. 1980' thru 1990's

I found this stuff on various sites. Its really neat because
almost everything you read about him is so positive on
the internet. No wonder he has made so much money.
He has used this information medium to the max. One
really has to dig. So if you care:

24 May 1996
San Antonio Express-News
English
(Copyright 1996)
A 1992 newsletter by Republican congressional candidate Ron Paul highlighted portrayals of blacks as criminally inclined and lacking sense about top political issues.
Reporting on gang crime in Los Angeles, Paul commented: "If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."
Paul, a Surfside obstetrician who won the GOP nomination in the 14th District runoff by defeating incumbent Rep. Greg Laughlin, said Wednesday he opposed racism.
He said his written commentaries about blacks came in the context of "current events and statistical reports of the time."
Copyright (c) 1996 National Journal Inc.
A 1992 political newsletter by former Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, included portrayals of African-Americans as inclined toward crime and lacking sense about political issues, the Houston Chronicle reported Thursday. Paul, a former Libertarian Party presidential candidate who defeated Democratic-turned-Republican Rep. Greg Laughlin in the March primary, in November will face Democratic attorney Charles (Lefty) Morris, whose campaign is distributing Paul's writings. Under the headline "Terrorist Update," Paul reported on gang crime in Los Angeles and wrote, "If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be." About blacks in Washington, D.C., Paul wrote, "I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." Paul said Wednesday that his comments came in the context of "current events and statistical reports of the time," and that he opposes racism.
The Houston Chronicle story linked above contains quotes from a newsletter Mr. Paul put out in the 1980s and 1990s. It includes quotes referring to blacks as crime-prone and "fleet-footed."
Mr. Paul also wrote that "By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government" and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism.
The Houston Chronicle story linked above contains quotes from a newsletter Mr. Paul put out in the 1980s and 1990s. It includes quotes referring to blacks as crime-prone and "fleet-footed."
Mr. Paul also wrote that "By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government" and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism.
"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." - Ron Paul, 1992

"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such." - Ron Paul, 1992


Sorry I mistook pickpocket for fleet-footed blacks.
I knew it was something like that but I could not recall.
And my acquaintance hated Jews so this fit as well.
There is much more. Seek. Damn I wish I had kept
those xeroxed copies I would sent them to you Kentucky.
I am not kidding when I say I have been following this
guy for a long time. Because I could not believe someone
like this could be elected back when I was your age.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.