Piss Test

fpsoxfan · #1 01-31-2008, 03:55 PM

I've already seen the E-Mail Cowgirl posted and as she said it is very interesting. E-Mails like this get sent around because the Middle Class is frustrated. We are the forgotten ones and I really don't see that changing.
It's frustrating to see the amount of welfare in my area. For every 100 people who receive public asst. only 80 really need it. In our area it's a Generational Poverty. Welfare Breeds Welfare. When I was growing up I had some friends who were poor and on public assistance, but they worked hard in school, played sports, had jobs and went off to get a college education.
That doesn't happen as much anymore. As a teacher I see a lot of bad parenting. Scum of the Earth who had no business reproducing. These are the people who are costing us a ton of money. And to think the Dems wanted them to get the same tax rebate as the working class?

SCUDSBROTHER · #2 01-31-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

I've already seen the E-Mail Cowgirl posted and as she said it is very interesting. E-Mails like this get sent around because the Middle Class is frustrated. We are the forgotten ones and I really don't see that changing.
It's frustrating to see the amount of welfare in my area. For every 100 people who receive public asst. only 80 really need it. In our area it's a Generational Poverty. Welfare Breeds Welfare. When I was growing up I had some friends who were poor and on public assistance, but they worked hard in school, played sports, had jobs and went off to get a college education.
That doesn't happen as much anymore. As a teacher I see a lot of bad parenting. Scum of the Earth who had no business reproducing. These are the people who are costing us a ton of money. And to think the Dems wanted them to get the same tax rebate as the working class?

I think this is a common mistake made by the middle-class.They are within eyeshot of the poor etc. So,they are more of an observable problem for them.I'm not saying it's not a problem,but it's not the reason the middle-class struggles.Let me ask you something.Do successful singers have a unique ability to share? Are they "special" in production of something of value? Answer=yes.......Do rich sports stars have unique talent that produces something of great value? Can they do something actually unique? In other Woods is Tiger Woods "special" or outstanding compared to the rest of society? Answer:yes............One could make a case why these people have so much versus the average person(the middle-class.)Now,you saw this guy Romney last night,or you've seen him.Do you see anything unique about this individual's talent? He is just a conservative guy,right? What he says is pretty much what any conservative guy would say.He smiles a lot.He dresses well.Seems clean etc.Do you see any special talent here? Aren't there people who talk better when giving speeches or being funny? Yes...Where is the incredible talent that is so unique? Being smart is not uncommon...If you think he is smart,I guarantee you plenty of people could make whatever smart decision he may have made.I am not trying to single him out.There are many,many people like this.My point is that "managers" are not unique in talent.Somehow they are rewarded as if they have unique talent.This is the reason the middle-class struggles.As a society we pay people like this (with no unique talent) hundreds of millions of dollars.Money that could go to people that actually do the work(the middle-class.) These people keep the regular guys wages low,and their own wages incredible.Then they complain they are taxed too much to pay for programs.The same programs that had to be started because they wouldn't pay people,or because they got rid of people's jobs(so they could sell their stock at a higher price.)

fpsoxfan · #3 01-31-2008, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I think this is a common mistake made by the middle-class.They are within eyeshot of the poor etc. So,they are more of an observable problem for them.I'm not saying it's not a problem,but it's not the reason the middle-class struggles.Let me ask you something.Do successful singers have a unique ability to share? Are they "special" in production of something of value? Answer=yes.......Do rich sports stars have unique talent that produces something of great value? Can they do something actually unique? In other Woods is Tiger Woods "special" or outstanding compared to the rest of society? Answer:yes............One could make a case why these people have so much versus the average person(the middle-class.)Now,you saw this guy Romney last night,or you've seen him.Do you see anything unique about this individual's talent? He is just a conservative guy,right? What he says is pretty much what any conservative guy would say.He smiles a lot.He dresses well.Seems clean etc.Do you see any special talent here? Aren't there people who talk better when giving speeches or being funny? Yes...Where is the incredible talent that is so unique? Being smart is not uncommon...If you think he is smart,I guarantee you plenty of people could make whatever smart decision he may have made.I am not trying to single him out.There are many,many people like this.My point is that "managers" are not unique in talent.Somehow they are rewarded as if they have unique talent.This is the reason the middle-class struggles.As a society we pay people like this (with no unique talent) hundreds of millions of dollars.Money that could go to people that actually do the work(the middle-class.) These people keep the regular guys wages low,and their own wages incredible.Then they complain they are taxed too much to pay for programs.The same programs that had to be started because they wouldn't pay people,or because they got rid of people's jobs(so they could sell their stock at a higher price.)

I think I get most of what you are saying. I'm not sure I'm drawing the connection between the rich should be helping the poor thing. As far as Romney or any other politician, I believe they are all full of shiat. How do they sleep at night knowing what they say or don't say hinges completely on the lobby they represent. Do I think they are smart? Nope. I can tell you I'm not smart. How many teachers can you get to admit that. I'm just very good at what I do. Just like an actor, politician or a person who installs windshields for a living.

The fact of the matter is, we all made a CHOICE to be who we are. I don't begrudge an actor for making $1,000,00 a flick or a baseball player for making 30,000 per at bat. I knew being a teacher would not make me a wealthy person. The problem I have is with the lazy slobs who would rather live on HUD housing and take a monthly check on my dime instead of having the iniative to go find a job and make a living. It's not my fault that they are too lazy to get off their ass and get a job; especially when there are jobs available. Then they have the audacity to go spend that chr=eck at OTB instead of paying for their kids field trip or getting the kid a notebook that they need. Do I hate welfare recipients? Nope. Many are working to get off welfare. Or some have some sort of a disability. That's obviously understandable. The rest of them should be ashamed of themselves.

SCUDSBROTHER · #4 01-31-2008, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

I think I get most of what you are saying. I'm not sure I'm drawing the connection between the rich should be helping the poor thing. As far as Romney or any other politician, I believe they are all full of shiat. How do they sleep at night knowing what they say or don't say hinges completely on the lobby they represent. Do I think they are smart? Nope. I can tell you I'm not smart. How many teachers can you get to admit that. I'm just very good at what I do. Just like an actor, politician or a person who installs windshields for a living.

The fact of the matter is, we all made a CHOICE to be who we are. I don't begrudge an actor for making $1,000,00 a flick or a baseball player for making 30,000 per at bat. I knew being a teacher would not make me a wealthy person. The problem I have is with the lazy slobs who would rather live on HUD housing and take a monthly check on my dime instead of having the iniative to go find a job and make a living. It's not my fault that they are too lazy to get off their ass and get a job; especially when there are jobs available. Then they have the audacity to go spend that chr=eck at OTB instead of paying for their kids field trip or getting the kid a notebook that they need. Do I hate welfare recipients? Nope. Many are working to get off welfare. Or some have some sort of a disability. That's obviously understandable. The rest of them should be ashamed of themselves.

Well,what I'm saying is if they got rid of these programs people don't like,then you wouldn't see the middle-class do much better.They would get a very minor tax break.The reason the middle-class struggles is because people with no particular unique talent are paid as if they are rock stars or virtuoso entertainers.Like I said,this Romney guy has a load of money.Where is the special n' unique talent that made whatever he did so unique? That's where the middle-class' gets taken..By guys like that(not guys with talent....like Tiger Woods,or other gifted people.)

fpsoxfan · #5 01-31-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Well,what I'm saying is if they got rid of these programs people don't like,then you wouldn't see the middle-class do much better.They would get a very minor tax break.The reason the middle-class struggles is because people with no particular unique talent are paid as if they are rock stars or virtuoso entertainers.Like I said,this Romney guy has a load of money.Where is the special n' unique talent that made whatever he did so unique? That's where the middle-class' gets taken..By guys like that(not guys with talent....like Tiger Woods,or other gifted people.)

Gotcha! It's a good argument you make!