Just give Bernardini HOY

Originally Posted by Danzig188

lol....

sure. of course had his time been a bit faster than hesanoldsalt rather than a bit slower, you'd have been posting that for all to see.

How can time mean anything when you win by 9 in a jog. There was no effort made by the horse. If he didn't already have a huge number under his belt I could see arguing it, but an AP Indy is only going to get better as the year goes on. They all do.

[Buffymommy]

It was a very nice race and impressive. Not ready to give him HOY yet, maybe if he does the name in the Travers...

[miraja2]

It was a real good race. No question. The horses he beat weren't much, but he beat them so easily that I was impressed. But just give him HOY? I don't think so. The best horse he has beaten so far was a tired Sweetnorthernsaint. Buffy is right. If he strolls through the Travers like this, then I say let the HOY talk BEGIN. Before then....I say its premature.
My $ is still on Flower Alley.

Originally Posted by miraja2

It was a real good race. No question. The horses he beat weren't much, but he beat them so easily that I was impressed. But just give him HOY? I don't think so. The best horse he has beaten so far was a tired Sweetnorthernsaint. Buffy is right. If he strolls through the Travers like this, then I say let the HOY talk BEGIN. Before then....I say its premature.
My $ is still on Flower Alley.

Are there some mystery 3yr olds out there. Bluegrass Cat and Strong Contender are the only other decent three year olds that might show up and they are no better than Sunriver.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Are there some mystery 3yr olds out there. Bluegrass Cat and Strong Contender are the only other decent three year olds that might show up and they are no better than Sunriver.

Well first of all I think Bluegrass Cat is better than Sunriver. But in general you are correct in saying that there are no "mystery 3yo out there" and yes I fully expect Bern to win the Travers. All I am saying is that if he wins the Travers as impressively against Bluegrass Cat (or whoever emerges from the Haskell as a decent colt) I think HOY speculation would begin to be appropriate.
Listen there is nothing wrong with making predictions. If you think he is unbeatable, fine. I just don't think it is time yet to hand him HOY yet. The horse has won 2 real races in his life and they were against suspect competition. I will be the first to say that those two races were visually impressive, but let's remember Flower Alley.
He too won the Jim Dandy impressively (over 5 lengths) and went on to win the Travers by 2.5. He then finished a game 2nd to last year's HOY in the BCC, and won his only start this year. Do you really think it is IMPOSSIBLE that Flower Alley will beat Bernardini if and when those 2 square off? By saying "hand him horse of the year" you are saying that horses like Lava Man and Flower Alley have no shot at beating him. I'm just not ready to say that.