NBA At the Half

[Mortimer]

I believe you're also the guy who claims Here'sJhonny is a fine ss.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

I believe you're also the guy who claims Here'sJhonny is a fine ss.

Peralta was their best player in postseason last year. He is a good shortstop without question. He isn't Tulowitzski with the glove, but he is in the upper half of major league SS defensively, and he hits just fine. Good player who still has upside I believe. (who was the cog to get them to the 3-1 ALCS lead?? game 2,,game 4 anyone??) I wouldn't mind seeing him at 3rd base eventually however. He's still a decent SS though.

The facts are what they are regarding the Cavs. I don't need to say effectively. Varejao came to play in shape period. If Sasha wasn't in shape that's not LeBron's fault. LeBron has 3 big guys that rebound the heck out of the ball (Gooden, Z and Varejao). That is what he has. He has 3 brick laying off guards, (Hughes, Pavlovic and Brown...all 3 under 40 percent.), and two three point shooting point guards who are shooting guards in point guard bodies (Gibson and Jones.).

They are better with Pavlovic and Varejao healthy without question. They nonetheless win consistently without either those two with James on the floor. They never won without James on the floor (this year...in past years they have actually had very good records without James).

The are strong at power forward and center with the Gooden, Ilgauskas, Varejao rotation. Their guard play is very far from strong and in fact has been abysmal this year. Gibson is an interesting player who is a very good shooter but not really a point guard. He is about the only guy LeBron trusts to go to...him and Z. Like it or not, LeBron is the team and the best player in the game.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Peralta was their best player in postseason last year. He is a good shortstop without question. He isn't Tulowitzski with the glove, but he is in the upper half of major league SS defensively, and he hits just fine. Good player who still has upside I believe. (who was the cog to get them to the 3-1 ALCS lead?? game 2,,game 4 anyone??) I wouldn't mind seeing him at 3rd base eventually however. He's still a decent SS though.

The facts are what they are regarding the Cavs. I don't need to say effectively. Varejao came to play in shape period. If Sasha wasn't in shape that's not LeBron's fault. LeBron has 3 big guys that rebound the heck out of the ball (Gooden, Z and Varejao). That is what he has. He has 3 brick laying off guards, (Hughes, Pavlovic and Brown...all 3 under 40 percent.), and two three point shooting point guards who are shooting guards in point guard bodies (Gibson and Jones.).

They are better with Pavlovic and Varejao healthy without question. They nonetheless win consistently without either those two with James on the floor. They never won without James on the floor (this year...in past years they have actually had very good records without James).

The are strong at power forward and center with the Gooden, Ilgauskas, Varejao rotation. Their guard play is very far from strong and in fact has been abysmal this year. Gibson is an interesting player who is a very good shooter but not really a point guard. He is about the only guy LeBron trusts to go to...him and Z. Like it or not, LeBron is the team and the best player in the game.

Do you practice being wrong?

Sahsa and the Brazilian missed the entire preseason.That's all needing said.


James is the best player by far. Gibson is a very viable Downtown Freddie off the bench; many teams would like him. MANY teams would like a 3 big man rotation of Z,Gooden and the Brazilian....MANY.

Their real weakness is point guard. If Hughes wanted to....he could fill that void, but he doesn't want to.


Take Wade off and put James on Miami. They would be better ,but still a sub .500 team. People ought to start giving some credit to the overall strong supporting cast James has instead of how he does it all by himself.

James has yet a lot to learn.


Anyone who has seen Here'sJhonny for more than 10 games knows the guy is at the very best a very average ss.....who strikes out a ton.......and has one of the worst "balls he should have gotten to" averages in baseball. The Indians are still trying to solve second since they threw away one of the best there is . Now they will solve it by playing the next Omar Vizquel at..... 2nd.....and go mediocre at ss.




Briilliant.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Do you practice being wrong?

Sahsa and the Brazilian missed the entire preseason.That's all needing said.


James is the best player by far. Gibson is a very viable Downtown Freddie off the bench; many teams would like him. MANY teams would like a 3 big man rotation of Z,Gooden and the Brazilian....MANY.

Their real weakness is point guard. If Hughes wanted to....he could fill that void, but he doesn't want to.


Take Wade off and put James on Miami. They would be better ,but still a sub .500 team. People ought to start giving some credit to the overall strong supporting cast James has instead of how he does it all by himself.

James has yet a lot to learn.


Anyone who has seen Here'sJhonny for more than 10 games knows the guy is at the very best a very average ss.....who strikes out a ton.......and has one of the worst "balls he should have gotten to" averages in baseball. The Indians are still trying to solve second since they threw away one of the best there is . Now they will solve it by playing the next Omar Vizquel at..... 2nd.....and go mediocre at ss.




Briilliant.

Do I practice being wrong?? You basically repeated everything I said...I said their big man rotation was very good...you repeated what I said. I said their guards stink...you repeated what I said. And you are quite simply wrong about Peralta. HE's a very good player. He strikes out a ton like pretty much everyone in baseball does now. It's not 1965 any more. If you don't like a young shortstop who is going to hit .280...hit 25-30 home runs every year, score and drive in 90 runs a year most likely and play decent to above average defense...don't know what you have there against him. I agree about Cabrera at short...I would like to see Barfield at 2nd and Peralta at 3rd and Blake in a super sub role, but I don't know if Barfield can ever get on base enough to justify playing him there full time. That's the problem...not Peralta.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Do I practice being wrong?? You basically repeated everything I said...I said their big man rotation was very good...you repeated what I said. I said their guards stink...you repeated what I said. And you are quite simply wrong about Peralta. HE's a very good player. He strikes out a ton like pretty much everyone in baseball does now. It's not 1965 any more. If you don't like a young shortstop who is going to hit .280...hit 25-30 home runs every year, score and drive in 90 runs a year most likely and play decent to above average defense...don't know what you have there against him. I agree about Cabrera at short...I would like to see Barfield at 2nd and Peralta at 3rd and Blake in a super sub role, but I don't know if Barfield can ever get on base enough to justify playing him there full time. That's the problem...not Peralta.

Well then you must absolutely agree James is far from doing it alone and that every team would benefit from him...but many would still not be able to break .500.....??



Here'sJohnny has never done any of those things!!...except he did hit .294....3 years ago. ....250's and .270 since!


DEFENSE still wins...you can't have a hack like him at short and a gold glove ss candiate like Cabrerra at 2nd. People have said regarding Peralta at third..............you don't want to know.


5 tools.....Peralta does NONE of them extremely well. He only is good in the power game and has a good arm....he's unGodly slow...doesn't hit for average( check his career avg.)..and in my opinion, and most who know what they are speaking of ,he is a near hack in the most important spot in fair territory.

Give me a break here already!