Johan...

[pmayjr]

1 prediction for if and when Johan gets this huge extension worked out with the Mets. He's gonna start out the first 2months of the season a little medicore. I could see his ERA bein something like 4.50. And people will say "what's wrong with Johan?". I'm tellin you guys, don't worry about it. If you look at his ERA after June 1 every year, he's pretty much lights out after. He's just always a little sluggish the first 2 months of the season. But Aftr June 1, he's barely hittable
-Pete

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

1 prediction for if and when Johan gets this huge extension worked out with the Mets. He's gonna start out the first 2months of the season a little medicore. I could see his ERA bein something like 4.50. And people will say "what's wrong with Johan?". I'm tellin you guys, don't worry about it. If you look at his ERA after June 1 every year, he's pretty much lights out after. He's just always a little sluggish the first 2 months of the season. But Aftr June 1, he's barely hittable
-Pete

No DH?, Not having to pitch against the Indians and Tigers 4-5 times each? He could win 25 games with an ERA near 2.00

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by GBBob

No DH?, Not having to pitch against the Indians and Tigers 4-5 times each? He could win 25 games with an ERA near 2.00

He is in the national league now. He won't be completing as many games as he would if he was in the American League. He will get lifted for a pitch hitter or runner or whatever. I will say he wins 21 games and no more in the national league.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

1 prediction for if and when Johan gets this huge extension worked out with the Mets. He's gonna start out the first 2months of the season a little medicore. I could see his ERA bein something like 4.50. And people will say "what's wrong with Johan?". I'm tellin you guys, don't worry about it. If you look at his ERA after June 1 every year, he's pretty much lights out after. He's just always a little sluggish the first 2 months of the season. But Aftr June 1, he's barely hittable
-Pete

I don't think he'll be 4.50 early mainly from getting to face hitters who haven't seen him much or at all and getting to pitch to the pitcher instead of a DH. I do agree with you he'll get better as the weather heats up as a lot of Latin American players do.

[pmayjr]

Good point about not having to face the DH, and facing more unfamiliar hitters, but Johan's M.O. is starting sluggishly the first 2 months. Until I see otherwise, I think it'll happen again. I'm just sayin, if it does happen, don't panic or start jumping to conclusions that he's a bust.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

Good point about not having to face the DH, and facing more unfamiliar hitters, but Johan's M.O. is starting sluggishly the first 2 months. Until I see otherwise, I think it'll happen again. I'm just sayin, if it does happen, don't panic or start jumping to conclusions that he's a bust.

Fortunately for Johan, Mets fans are a heck of a lot more patient than their crosstown rivals. I think he'll start slow but considering the league switch starting slow could easily be an ERA around 3.00.

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Fortunately for Johan, Mets fans are a heck of a lot more patient than their crosstown rivals. I think he'll start slow but considering the league switch starting slow could easily be an ERA around 3.00.

If an ERA of 3 is his starting point, he'll be on his way to a borderline historical season by the time August comes around. I shutter to see how sick-nasty he could be this year.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

If an ERA of 3 is his starting point, he'll be on his way to a borderline historical season by the time August comes around. I shutter to see how sick-nasty he could be this year.

I agree...As a Sox fan, I saw way too much of him and I really don't think people realize how dominant he is and how insane he will be in a very weak NL and without having to face a DH

That being said...Nathan was one of the game's best and with his being pulled earlier for a PH, he will be at the mercy of his bullpen more now...especially the bridge guys