Johan...

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I don't think the contract is that big of an issue. He's basically going to get what Barry Zito got on the open market which the Mets were prepared to pay but not for Zito. So the Mets traded one good OF prospect who needs to learn plate discipline (which wasn't going to be possible with the Mets next year), a 25yo pitcher who has already had Tommy John surgery, and two other pitching prospects that likely would have never made the rotation with Santana, Maine, Perez, and Pelfrey likely around for a while. In exchange they upgraded from Barry Zito to Johan Santana for about the same money. I'm just shocked they pulled this off without any of Reyes, Pelfrey, Heilman, or Fernando Martinez involved.

i don't think the contract is a issue with the mets either, like i said they got the cash.

i'm surprised they pulled it off also,get to keep there top pitching prospect and offensive prospect and unload a couple back of the rotation pitchers at best for a huge push to being the team to beat in the nl.

the twins have to be kicking themselves in the ass. i would have pulled the trigger with the yanks when the offer was on the table.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by pdrift1

i don't think the contract is a issue with the mets either, like i said they got the cash.

i'm surprised they pulled it off also,get to keep there top pitching prospect and offensive prospect and unload a couple back of the rotation pitchers at best for a huge push to being the team to beat in the nl.

the twins have to be kicking themselves in the ass. i would have pulled the trigger with the yanks when the offer was on the table.

It's all relative, the Mets do try and keep a payroll cap of $120 million unlike the Yanks and Sox who will spend whatever it takes. So while the Mets have far more money to spend than 3/4 of the team in baseball they do still have a soft cap they are working with so in that sense it does matter.

I have a feeling the Yanks would have put that offer back on the table if the Twins were willing to take it. They just wanted Santana out of the league.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

It's all relative, the Mets do try and keep a payroll cap of $120 million unlike the Yanks and Sox who will spend whatever it takes. So while the Mets have far more money to spend than 3/4 of the team in baseball they do still have a soft cap they are working with so in that sense it does matter.

I have a feeling the Yanks would have put that offer back on the table if the Twins were willing to take it. They just wanted Santana out of the league.

well i think in a postion to get one of the best if not the best, rest assured they would have gone over that soft cap.

there are exceptions to the rule and when a pitcher like this is in front of you i think they would even go above there self imposed cap

i don't think it was santana out of the league, thats the least of the twins worries. you worry about that if your a contender. they have enuff problems just trying to be even remotly competitive in thier own division,let alone worry about what he can do to them

i think the soxand yanks had enuff time to think about it and realised the talent they had was good enuff and not really where that intrested upon reflection of it.

and i also believe that they both had a feel that neither one after giving it some thought were going to go for it and were both satisfied of niether having him.

i think the yanks said screw it and the sox said if the yanks look like they are going to stay out of it so will we.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

It's all relative, the Mets do try and keep a payroll cap of $120 million unlike the Yanks and Sox who will spend whatever it takes. So while the Mets have far more money to spend than 3/4 of the team in baseball they do still have a soft cap they are working with so in that sense it does matter.

I have a feeling the Yanks would have put that offer back on the table if the Twins were willing to take it. They just wanted Santana out of the league.

1. NY Yankees 195,229,045
2. Boston 143,123,714
3. NY Mets 116,115,819
4. Chicago Sox 109,290,167


expect them to roll right up alongside boston after this

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by pdrift1

1. NY Yankees 195,229,045
2. Boston 143,123,714
3. NY Mets 116,115,819
4. Chicago Sox 109,290,167


expect them to roll right up alongside boston after this

For next year the Mets are right around $101 million prior to Santana. If he gets $25 million that will put them at $126. My guess is they defer money like they did with Beltran. If not I don't think they'll lose sleep over being at $126 million, especially being free of Pedro, Delgado, and Wagner's $44 million of that after this season.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

For next year the Mets are right around $101 million prior to Santana. If he gets $25 million that will put them at $126. My guess is they defer money like they did with Beltran. If not I don't think they'll lose sleep over being at $126 million, especially being free of Pedro, Delgado, and Wagner's $44 million of that after this season.

snipe i see the mets are raiseing tix price by 20% when they move into thier new stadium. do you know how much the yanks are going to raise thiers? just curious if you have seen anything on it?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by pdrift1

snipe i see the mets are raiseing tix price by 20% when they move into thier new stadium. do you know how much the yanks are going to raise thiers? just curious if you have seen anything on it?

No clue, I don't care how much all these rich guys are making, just how much they are willing to spend.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

No clue, I don't care how much all these rich guys are making, just how much they are willing to spend.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pdrift1

snipe i see the mets are raiseing tix price by 20% when they move into thier new stadium. do you know how much the yanks are going to raise thiers? just curious if you have seen anything on it?

Probably 21 % so Hank can say they beat the Mets

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Probably 21 % so Hank can say they beat the Mets

if you want to see yankee stadium in its original look you gotta pay