TAMPA TUESDAY 1/29/08 LATE p4

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

P4 looks very chalky with an obvious single of Moment of Song in the first leg and the two stand outs in the last leg. Can't see chasing with a big ticket, so I'll go for the chalk and hit it a couple of times:

P4 play - 4//3,6,8,10//1,3,5,6//6,8 = 32.00

Good Luck Everybody and especially Dee Tee Stables! - for those in town, I'll see ya at the Downs!

Couldn't disagree with you more on the last race (that's why I love this game). I think there are several capable of knocking off your top two. Too many things can happen in a 5f turf dash (bad break, traffic, wide trip, etc...) that leave the horse with too much work to do and not enough distance to get there.

1 - Not Acclaim - Will be flying from the outset for Kirk Zaidie. 5f specialist will try to take them the whole way.
2 - Hold the Salt - Recently won a 100k Stake at KD.
3 - Salute the Count - Is dangerous for Dutrow. Blazing PmM work. 2nd in the Jaipur to Ecclesiastic and beat Weigelia. Listed Stake winner at Med.
4 - Bucky's Prayer - Horse for the course. Former track record holder here.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Couldn't disagree with you more on the last race (that's why I love this game). I think there are several capable of knocking off your top two. Too many things can happen in a 5f turf dash (bad break, traffic, wide trip, etc...) that leave the horse with too much work to do and not enough distance to get there.

1 - Not Acclaim - Will be flying from the outset for Kirk Zaidie. 5f specialist will try to take them the whole way.
2 - Hold the Salt - Recently won a 100k Stake at KD.
3 - Salute the Count - Is dangerous for Dutrow. Blazing PmM work. 2nd in the Jaipur to Ecclesiastic. Listed Stake winner at Med.
4 - Bucky's Prayer - Horse for the course. Former track record holder here.

There are some very interesting horses in here and this is probably the nicest race we've seen here this meet (including the stakes)...That said, IMO Trombetta's horse is in a class by itself - solid string of works coming in so the lay off is not a concern; Velez up; 7-2-1-2 the distance over turf - could make a case to include Salute the Count, but This is all the 8. I hope your right so I get a better price

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

There are some very interesting horses in here and this is probably the nicest race we've seen here this meet (including the stakes)...That said, IMO Trombetta's horse is in a class by itself - solid string of works coming in so the lay off is not a concern; Velez up; 7-2-1-2 the distance over turf - could make a case to include Salute the Count, but This is all the 8. I hope your right so I get a better price

I am scratching my head as to why Weigelia is even in this race. This is a pretty tough field and he's running for a measly $21,200 purse. There is a race this Sunday at GP that he is eligible for (6f dirt) with a purse of $59,000.

TENTH RACE ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING
Purse $59,000. (Plus $5,000 F.O.A. Winner Supp.) For Four Year Olds And
Upward Which Have Not Won $25,000 Twice Other Than Maiden, Claiming
Or Starter Since August 2, 2007 Or Claiming Price $100,000.
Weight 124 lbs.
Non-winners Of Two Races Since January 3 2 lbs.
A Race Since Then 4 lbs.
(Maiden , Claiming, And Starter Races Not Considered In Allowances)
SIX FURLONGS

If the horse was doing well and ready to go, why not run for the bigger purse? The bullets he has shown indicate that he is okay with the GP dirt surface, so why run here today?

I could be way off base, but it just seems odd to me.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

I am scratching my head as to why Weigelia is even in this race. This is a pretty tough field and he's running for a measly $21,200 purse. There is a race this Sunday at GP that he is eligible for (6f dirt) with a purse of $59,000.

TENTH RACE ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING
Purse $59,000. (Plus $5,000 F.O.A. Winner Supp.) For Four Year Olds And
Upward Which Have Not Won $25,000 Twice Other Than Maiden, Claiming
Or Starter Since August 2, 2007 Or Claiming Price $100,000.
Weight 124 lbs.
Non-winners Of Two Races Since January 3 2 lbs.
A Race Since Then 4 lbs.
(Maiden , Claiming, And Starter Races Not Considered In Allowances)
SIX FURLONGS

If the horse was doing well and ready to go, why not run for the bigger purse? The bullets he has shown indicate that he is okay with the GP dirt surface, so why run here today?

I could be way off base, but it just seems odd to me.

Blue Pepsi Lodge?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Blue Pepsi Lodge?

will prob scr..

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

will prob scr..

Matt- was wondering if they (the connections of Weigelia) were looking to duplicate a similar plan to BPL...He came in here on 1/18 from GP, blew an alw field away by open lengths then ran back at GP 4 days later for a meatier purse and won that as well....

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Matt- was wondering if they (the connections of Weigelia) were looking to duplicate a similar plan to BPL...He came in here on 1/18 from GP, blew an alw field away by open lengths then ran back at GP 4 days later for a meatier purse and won that as well....

very well could be but is a 7 year old..trombetta is a good trainer so i cant second guess anything.. good luck today

[infield_line]

some pretty good coherence between our picks... watching not playing so hope you hit..

I/L

[viscount26]

quote from todays NY Daily News
Tampa Bay analysis by Tom Cavanagh
Race 8
Hurricane Nikki saved second Placing 1 3/4 out moving to Tony Wilsons barn in from Laurel; advances. Golden Celebrity led by a head; came up short 3/4's; up $25,000 off Jim Hartleys claim; on the Board in last six.
Kickin N Screamin got blocked; closed fastest missing by 3/4's; the Red hot Rosie h stays; can upset.

[NTamm1215]

For what it's worth and I know there are far, far better trip handicappers in here than myself, but #6 RAVENCLIFF in Race 9 had quite the trip last time out, breaking slow, racing wide, wider, wider and then fighting through the stretch to come up just short all the time while rallying into a slow pace. You have to figure that one's between him and Michael Catalano's horse on the rail.

NT

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

I am scratching my head as to why Weigelia is even in this race. This is a pretty tough field and he's running for a measly $21,200 purse. There is a race this Sunday at GP that he is eligible for (6f dirt) with a purse of $59,000.

TENTH RACE ALLOWANCE OPTIONAL CLAIMING
Purse $59,000. (Plus $5,000 F.O.A. Winner Supp.) For Four Year Olds And
Upward Which Have Not Won $25,000 Twice Other Than Maiden, Claiming
Or Starter Since August 2, 2007 Or Claiming Price $100,000.
Weight 124 lbs.
Non-winners Of Two Races Since January 3 2 lbs.
A Race Since Then 4 lbs.
(Maiden , Claiming, And Starter Races Not Considered In Allowances)
SIX FURLONGS

If the horse was doing well and ready to go, why not run for the bigger purse? The bullets he has shown indicate that he is okay with the GP dirt surface, so why run here today?

I could be way off base, but it just seems odd to me.

Quite possibly the Super Stakes on 2/9 going 7F. He ran a very nice 2nd in it last year and also won going 7 in the Kenny Noe in Dec, '06.

Maybe he needed the race today but I didn't think he looked very good.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Quite possibly the Super Stakes on 2/9 going 7F. He ran a very nice 2nd in it last year and also won going 7 in the Kenny Noe in Dec, '06.

Maybe he needed the race today but I didn't think he looked very good.

Super Stakes Nominations:

ALARMING AFLEET b.c.4 Dennis Dwyer Enrique Alonso
B L'S A RUNNER ch.h.5 Monarch Stables, Inc. Larry Pilotti
CHATAIN b.h.5 Lazy F Ranch Angel J. Penna, Jr.
CURIOUS TIGER dk b/.c.4 C. Robert Valeri Lynne M. Scace
D'ARTAGNANS'SPIRIT b.g.6 Richard N. Averill and Stephen M. White Kirk Ziadie
DRUMS OF THUNDER ch.c.4 Elkins, Ione and Herbert J. William A. Kaplan
DUBAI GOLD ch.g.5 Jim Stackpoole Michael Dini
EL BANDIDO ROJO ch.g.4 Buckley, Jr., John, Durante, Ralph and Pennston Farm Inc. William P. White
ELITE SQUADRON ch.c.4 Tom R. Walters James E. Baker
GOLD TRIPPI ch.g.4 E. Paul Robsham Stables LLC Stanley M. Hough
HE'S SO CHIC dk b/.c.4 Char-Mari Stable Jason Servis
I'VEGOTTABEME ch.g.4 Peter D. Fuller Michael L. Catalano, Jr.
IMAWILDANDCRAZYGUY gr/ro.g.4 Pell, Lewis and Eigner, Michael William A. Kaplan
IRISH GENTLEMAN ch.g.5 Harlingen Stable Joe McAlister
KEYED ENTRY dk b/.h.5 Starlight, Lucarelli and Saylor Todd A. Pletcher
LOOKINFORTHESECRET ch.h.6 Balkrisna Sukharan Jamie Ness
ON THE VINEYARD ch.c.4 Lynne M. Scace Lynne M. Scace
PARADISE DANCER ch.g.8 Richard N. Averill Kirk Ziadie
PUNTO FIJO (URU) dk b/.h.5 Roger Urbina Manuel J. Azpurua
REXSON'S ROSE b.h.5 Rose Family Stable Barry R. Rose
SENECA SUMMER b.g.7 Barbara Rehbein Bernell B. Rhone
STORM IN MAY gr/ro.c.4 Kaplan, William A., Palmer, Teresa and David and Waugh, Felicity William A. Kaplan
TYTUS dk b/.g.4 Web's Gem Stable and Jagger, Inc. Jamie Ness
VICARIAN b.g.4 Lothenbach Stables, Inc. Ian R. Wilkes
WHISKEY LIT b.g.4 Rookie Thoroughbred Racing Stable, Inc. Jane Cibelli



I'm pumped for Chatain - Hope we see him

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

race 7 4/6/10
race 8 6/5 kns has the late kick gl
race 9 9/2/3
race 10 8/2 lox n kippers ran great yesterday to get 3rd at gs

cant believe noone is using pp 5 siempre verde.. 2nd off the layoff

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

race 7 4/6/10
race 8 6/5 kns has the late kick gl
race 9 9/2/3
race 10 8/2/1 lox n kippers ran great yesterday to get 3rd at gs

cant believe noone is using pp 5 siempre verde.. 2nd off the layoff

I did.

Are you posting from your vehicle while driving down US19?
GL Matt.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

not gonna make it this time...gl and have a blast!