Some top W/E BSF's..

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Funny, I found it more reminiscent of A One Rocket.

You could very well be correct there. That horse was awfully geared up.

[blackthroatedwind]

It will be very interesting to see if he can remain sound. Taken at face value, perfect trip and all, he was awfully impressive on Saturday.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Perfect trip indeed - and that performance was obviously not in the same ball park as Ghostzapper's Tom Fool in my opinion. Some of his prior races were sneaky strong - him showing a touch more speed this past week was the only surprising thing with his effort imo.

I think Benny The Bull will clearly prove to be the best one-turn miler this year for sure.

Bob Black Jack is a bit interesting. 109 Synthetic Beyer for a Jan Cal Bred 3yo is eye-catching - as is running a final time 0.73 seconds faster than Grade 1 older males in the Malibu in his start two back.

However, you need only go back to Da Stoops to find a horse with a similar profile - Da Stoops, of course, ran faster (albeit by a razor thin margin) than Proud Tower Too did in the Malibu on the same card - and he also won the SM 3yo Sprint with a big figure.

He, at best, flatlined from there.

[cakes44]

We are all in agreement on the perfect trip. I guess I was just impressed by the early speed he showed and I can't imagine him winning by any less than 2 lengths even if he circles the entire field at the turn. There was never a point in that race where Benny the Bull didn't look like an easy winner, even with the wall of horses in front of him for the first 4 furlongs.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by cakes44

We are all in agreement on the perfect trip. I guess I was just impressed by the early speed he showed and I can't imagine him winning by any less than 2 lengths even if he circles the entire field at the turn. There was never a point in that race where Benny the Bull didn't look like an easy winner, even with the wall of horses in front of him for the first 4 furlongs.

I agree....but frankly was there really a time you didn't think he was a winner once you had looked at the pps?

[The Bid]

Im not certain why him showing speed was a shock. If you go back and look pre Dutrow the horse never worked a half in under 51. Everything Dutrow did getting Benny ready to run on Saturday was done quickly. Add to that equation almost all of Jeff Talleys horses are trained to come from 10 back and the speed isnt that big of a surprise. Especially when you give Dutrow a little time to wave the wand. That horse was out of his mind Saturday.

Thx Phil.

[VOL JACK]

If u keep touting Benny the Bull u are going to have to change your username.

THE BULL !``

[The Bid]

I only touted him once and took heat for it. A 1x in Chicago in the winter.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

He certainly didn't show a hint of improved early speed in his first four runs for Dutrow.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It will be very interesting to see if he can remain sound. Taken at face value, perfect trip and all, he was awfully impressive on Saturday.

The A One Rocket comment brings back a lot of bad memories about IEAH. This one, however, (I think) is legit.


A congratulations is in order to my man The Bid who found this horse for IEAH...

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by philcski

The A One Rocket comment brings back a lot of bad memories about IEAH. This one, however, (I think) is legit.


A congratulations is in order to my man The Bid who found this horse for IEAH...

I think The Bid read my post on this board about Benny being more impressive than Fabulous Strike when both won races at Churchill in the same week. I also seem to remember some PMs going back and forth about him, but I'm not 100% positive. Seeing that this may have led to a known cheater getting a very good horse, I see no reason to make such posts in the future.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I think The Bid read my post on this board about Benny being more impressive than Fabulous Strike when both won races at Churchill in the same week. I also seem to remember some PMs going back and forth about him, but I'm not 100% positive. Seeing that this may have led to a known cheater getting a very good horse, I see no reason to make such posts in the future.

Nah, don't pat yourself on the back too hard. He had told me about the horse after his N1x win and preliminary talks were already underway.

[Kasept]

Complete BSF list from Ilman/FormBlog:

Sunshine Millions Sprint (GP): Benny the Bull (R. Dutrow Jr./E. Prado) - 115

*Sunshine Millions Dash (SA): Bob Black Jack (J. Kasparoff/D. Flores) - 109
*Sunshine Millions Distaff (GP): Ginger Punch (R. Frankel/R. Bejarano) - 109
*Sunshine Millions Classic (SA): Go Between (W. Mott/G. Gomez) - 106
*Sunshine Millions Turf (GP): War Monger (W. Mott/K. Desormeaux) - 100

*G Malleah (TuP): Trail This (R. Score/R. Eikleberry) - 97
*Sunshine Millions Filly and Mare Turf (SA): Quite a Bride (W. Mott/G. Gomez) - 95
*Maxxam Gold Cup (Hou): Reporting for Duty (S. Asmussen/L. Quinonez) - 95
*Kachina (TuP): Rivotella (B. Wright/G. Corbett) - 95
*Appleton (GP): Buffalo Man (C. Gambolati/E. Prado) - 94
*Lord Snowdon (Aqu): Lord Snowdon (A. Dutrow/R. Dominguez) - 94
*Turnofthecentury (Aqu): Run With the Lark (R. Schosberg/N. Arroyo Jr.) - 94
*Hangonslewpyhangon (TuP): Billy Allen - Ire (K. Bennett/C. Landeros) - 93
*Sunshine Millions Filly and Mare Sprint (SA): Dearest Trickski (J. Sadler/M. Smith) - 91
*Le Grande Pos (Pha): Banjo Picker (S. Krebs/T. Hemmings) - 90
*Sam Houston Distaff (Hou): Buy the Barrel (J. Jones/G. Saez) - 90
*Nellie Morse (Lrl): Wild Hoots (K. McLaughlin/M. Pino) - 90

*Sunshine Millions Oaks (GP): American County (D. Romans/E. Prado) - 87
*Forego (TP): Forest Blue (S. Ritter/V. Lebron) - 86
*Dixie Belle (OP): Kadira (D. Vance/L. Quinonez) - 84 (*Rated Fiesty earned an 85, but was dq'd from first to third)
*Smarty Jones (OP): Liberty Bull (T. Amoss/E. Razo Jr.) - 84
*El Paso Times (Sun): Snake Proof (H. Dominguez/A. Martinez) - 84
*Invitational (PM): Mystic Wood (R. Stevenson/A. Gutierrez) - 83
*Happy Princess (Aqu): Devil House (B. Levine/C. Lopez) - 81
*Marie G. Krantz Memorial (FG): Autobahn Girl (M. Pierce/P. Husbands) - 80

*California Derby (GG): Yankee Bravo (P. Gallagher/A. Solis) - 74

*Pepsi Cola (Sun): Brax (C. Lambert/C. Lambert) - 68

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Kasept

*Sunshine Millions Distaff (GP): Ginger Punch (R. Frankel/R. Bejarano) - 109

I think this one is too high, though it probably makes DrugS feel a little better.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by philcski

Nah, don't pat yourself on the back too hard. He had told me about the horse after his N1x win and preliminary talks were already underway.

It was mostly tongue in cheek.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

It was mostly tongue in cheek.

cool... (and i don't like dutrow getting horses either by the way)