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01-20-2008, 10:22 AM
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one angle that i found is good to me. the winner of mclm or msw trys the stake then with no real placing..be it illusions of grandure by connections or trainer .. then drops back to where he won......
good stuff, love the discussion.... 
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01-20-2008, 10:27 AM
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01-20-2008, 10:33 AM
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Thread from selections regarding a class dropper today. Not a big dollar purchase. But still on topic.
http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19525
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01-20-2008, 01:30 PM
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Oaklawn Race #1 the six horse
Great example where big dropper gets claimed twice and each time goes in for lower 14K to 10K and in for 7.5K today as 3/2 fav. Hate him here.
Let's see what happens. Spyder
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01-20-2008, 01:35 PM
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01-20-2008, 01:41 PM
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I think that it is more of a trainer play. Just have to know which trainers are dangerous when there horses make huge drops. Hooves mentioned Pletcher, he just doesn't seem like the guy that would drop a horse to steal a race.
I personally never bet a horse that runs for a lower tag then claimed next time out, just too fishy for me. Also I am weary when a horse wins and then drops in the next race. As far as purchase price goes, I notice it but do not take it into account to much. I know of a horse that cost 16 million and you would think for that much money he would be able run a little, right? 
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01-20-2008, 02:20 PM
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I read somewhere recently that when big outfits like Pletcher drop a horse significantly they're looking to get rid of the horse rather than get a win. . .
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01-20-2008, 02:42 PM
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Hockey, ive heard the same about Pletcher as well. I guess when a drop down happens if it doesn't "make sense" then that worries me. A horse that was somewhat competitive at a higher level and drops fine but a winner then to the same level or lower worries me. Also, agree with the big purchase horses going into claimer. Ive just seen too many horses that are maidens over and over. It would just scare me to death to drop a horse into a clm race off a few races. I mean damn wouldnt you try everything you could think of b4 doing that??? Sprint, grass, grass sprint, route. I would just hate to loose out have someone claim the horse and the horse goes on to do something great. I agree Hooves, great topics and i appreciate all of the imput from all on the board.
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